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hells_half_acreSo, I timelined 7x12 yesterday...
...and I noticed that Sam didn't specify AM or PM when he wrote 11:34 and summoned Chronos. Maybe it was in the words he said, because he didn't write down the date either...but still...I'd have thought he would have used the 24 hour clock.
Now, a random comment about Castiel in S6....
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who can see what a giant ass Castiel was to Dean. Everyone is always going on like Dean somehow betrayed Castiel and it's all Dean's fault and blah blah blah...but guys, Castiel=BAD FRIEND. You could argue that he doesn't know any better, because he's an angel, but that doesn't mean that Dean has no right to have his feelings hurt and react accordingly. After all, how else is Castiel supposed to learn that his actions were wrong, if not by Dean being honest.
Anyway, that's just been annoying me recently. I think it's Castiel's puppy-eyes that fool people. He's all "I am full of woe" and everyone is like "Oh noes!!" ..and meanwhile Dean is like "But he ignored me for a year when I was the most miserable that I have ever been in life, he then only came to see me when he needed something, and then he lied to me (by omission or otherwise) repeatedly...and then he wouldn't listen when I kept trying to warn him that his ideas were bad...and what? I'm supposed to just hug him and call it water under the bridge?!!" And Castiel is like "Yes, because you hurt my feelings by your reaction to me hurting your feelings...and you called me a baby twice...and even though that's really true, because I'm basically a five-year old, you should still apologize, and do whatever I say, because I helped you out a bunch of times in the past...before I treated you like shit...remember? Remember when I used to not treat you like shit? There we go. Now, let me open purgatory and then forgive me when I unleash unstoppable monsters onto the planet. And uh, don't pay attention to the fact that I broke your brother either and he'll probably slowly descend into madness. Let's just ignore that bit. Where's my hug?"
In other news: So far today, I have been punched in the thumb by an umbrella, I have sliced my finger open on a take-out container, and I have forgotten the naan. :( I'm really hoping my evening goes better.
I am cat/house-sitting for the next 10 days! Woo! Kitties! Thank goodness for allergy medication.
...and I noticed that Sam didn't specify AM or PM when he wrote 11:34 and summoned Chronos. Maybe it was in the words he said, because he didn't write down the date either...but still...I'd have thought he would have used the 24 hour clock.
Now, a random comment about Castiel in S6....
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who can see what a giant ass Castiel was to Dean. Everyone is always going on like Dean somehow betrayed Castiel and it's all Dean's fault and blah blah blah...but guys, Castiel=BAD FRIEND. You could argue that he doesn't know any better, because he's an angel, but that doesn't mean that Dean has no right to have his feelings hurt and react accordingly. After all, how else is Castiel supposed to learn that his actions were wrong, if not by Dean being honest.
Anyway, that's just been annoying me recently. I think it's Castiel's puppy-eyes that fool people. He's all "I am full of woe" and everyone is like "Oh noes!!" ..and meanwhile Dean is like "But he ignored me for a year when I was the most miserable that I have ever been in life, he then only came to see me when he needed something, and then he lied to me (by omission or otherwise) repeatedly...and then he wouldn't listen when I kept trying to warn him that his ideas were bad...and what? I'm supposed to just hug him and call it water under the bridge?!!" And Castiel is like "Yes, because you hurt my feelings by your reaction to me hurting your feelings...and you called me a baby twice...and even though that's really true, because I'm basically a five-year old, you should still apologize, and do whatever I say, because I helped you out a bunch of times in the past...before I treated you like shit...remember? Remember when I used to not treat you like shit? There we go. Now, let me open purgatory and then forgive me when I unleash unstoppable monsters onto the planet. And uh, don't pay attention to the fact that I broke your brother either and he'll probably slowly descend into madness. Let's just ignore that bit. Where's my hug?"
In other news: So far today, I have been punched in the thumb by an umbrella, I have sliced my finger open on a take-out container, and I have forgotten the naan. :( I'm really hoping my evening goes better.
I am cat/house-sitting for the next 10 days! Woo! Kitties! Thank goodness for allergy medication.
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Date: 2012-01-25 10:52 pm (UTC)Hello! Nice to meet you! Welcome! I'm easy to miss, don't feel bad...I just sit in my corner and do weird things like timeline, keep track of clothes, and write Harry Potter crossover fic...occasionally, I vent opinions on things. :P
I've liked the character from the get-go. But more as a person who is there for Dean and his relationship/dynamics with Dean than, you know, the actor Misha Collins.
I'm the same way. I always thought it was good for Dean to have a friend who wasn't family/human.
I don't recall a scene like that in season 6. On the contrary, when Dean prays for Castiel in The Third Man it seemed to me like it was actually the first time he'd tried it since Sam went to hell.
Ugh, I know! It's driving me batty, because I could have sworn there was a line somewhere (later on maybe?) where he mentions Castiel not coming when he called during that year...but maybe I've lost my mind, because you are right about The Third Man.
And Castiel, I think, did care about Dean in that year. He nearly went and talked to him about his problems in heaven but then decided he didn't want to burden Dean with that.
Yes, my point wasn't that Castiel didn't care about Dean, it was more that he didn't SHOW Dean that he cared. Castiel can care all he wants, but it doesn't mean much if Dean has no evidence of it. Basically, I meant that I understood why Dean's feelings were so hurt. Castiel doesn't know any better of course, which is I'm sure why Dean forgave/will forgive him.
I agree, and I didn't get the impression that Castiel feels Dean owes him an apology.
No, I don't think so either. Castiel knows he did something wrong, and he knows he owes Dean an apology...and he tries to give him that apology. What I was complaining about was all the Cas-girls who think that Dean owes Castiel an apology (or seem to think that)...I do this occasionally, where I basically react to people's reactions rather than the show itself. I think the WRITERS have it correct, but some of the fans don't.
I think Dean will forgive Cas (if he hasn't already), he knows Castiel very well - and he KNOWS the reasons Castiel made the mistakes that he made, and he knows that Castiel genuinely regrets everything that happened now. Dean is hurt, so he'll probably nurse that hurt for a long while, because that's what Dean does (and there's nothing wrong with that), but deep down, I think he and Cas remain friends.
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Date: 2012-01-26 08:15 am (UTC)Amen to that!!
Personally, I'm the kind of person who is always sort of happy when fans who say "If they do X, I'm never watching again" actually stop watching - because then I don't have to put up with their stupid ideas of what's best for the show. :P
And Amen to that as well!! For me the only thing the writers could do for me to stop watching would be if they wrote Dean out of the show... XD
And let me just say that I'm so glad I stumbled onto this page because it's actually the first time that I came across a discussion about this topic. Not that I don't love all the other discussions but this particular aspect (Dean losing Castiel and the circumstances that led to it and what came of it so far) hasn't been discussed much (at least not on the ljs I usually hang out at.) So finding this was like a hot bubble bath to me. Or a box of chocolates. Or a nice red wine. :)
Also, your timeline? And your clothes-spotting? I love it to bits!! It never occured to me to focus on the clothes other than how good a particular rig-out looks in a particular lighting... So now I have a new focus for re-watching. Spot that henley!! Yay!!
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Date: 2012-01-26 09:10 am (UTC)Oooo, I feel decadent.
I discuss the topic a bit in my "rewatch s6" tagged posts, but that's on a per-episode basis. I think this is the only time I discuss it as it's own topic.
Also, your timeline? And your clothes-spotting? I love it to bits!! It never occured to me to focus on the clothes other than how good a particular rig-out looks in a particular lighting... So now I have a new focus for re-watching. Spot that henley!! Yay!!
Haha, thanks! And hey, if you notice any mistakes, let me know. Or, if you have some super-power that can tell henleys apart, let me know. ;)