Quick Reaction: 6x12 Like A Virgin
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hells_half_acreWE'RE BACK!
Ok, so before Christmas, the text I was using for my cut text was usually selected from a song that played on my ipod on the walk home from my friends house - today, for some reason, my ipod decided to favour my French-Canadian music...so, um, don't let the French in the cut text fool you, it's all English under the cut :)
SOMEONE GIVE THAT ANGEL A HUG!
Oh, maybe I should start at the beginning, eh?
Um, again...tipsy levels high. My apologies if this is a disjointed review.
So, we start of with a woman and a man in a plane....and THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE WING! Ok, no, there's something outside the plane - it's big and scary, and I didn't actually see it. But the woman does, and she flips...and then the man gets sucked through the airplane windshield and the plane goes down, and I'm thinking "WHERE ARE SAM AND DEAN?! WHO CARES ABOUT THESE PEOPLE!"
Luckily the TV reads my mind, because when we get back, Cas exits the panic room and talks to Dean, and DUDE he's harsh. I don't really get Cas' logic though...I mean, yeah, I understand that putting Sam's soul back inside of him could kill him/permanently injure him - but isn't that better than having his soul continually raped and tortured by Lucifer and Michael in the cage? I mean, even if it makes him a vegetable, at least nothing more bad is happening to him right? RIGHT?! And really, what good is Sam's body walking around if it's not really Sam and you can't trust it at all? If you're going to have to kill Sam's body because it's dangerous, why not kill two birds with one stone and stop Sam's soul-torture too?
Anyway, that all said, I do love Cas' line of "if you wanted to kill your brother, you should have just done it outright" because BURN! OUCH! I love it when Cas gets pissed off.
So, Sam has been sleeping for a while. I'm looking forward to timelining, because I think Bobby mentions that it's been around ten days. With lack of dates, I always like timelining episodes relative to each other.
Anyway, Dean and Bobby are all talky talk in the study, and talking about a Cas, and not expecting Sam to be up anytime soon...and then we hear "Dean?"
And MAN, that was good to hear...I feel bad for Sam waking up alone in the panic room - but man, it must have been trippy for him. He's terrified and falling into the pit and then he's awake in the panic room...and his brother and Bobby are safe and sound upstairs. And we get a hug, and then a Bobby hug...only Bobby's a bit awkward, because...well, attempted murder and all.
Sam is hungry! IT'S THE APOCALYPSE! Oh, wait, no, that already happened. He's just hungry because he's been sleeping for 10 days without an IV drip....perhaps something that Dean should have looked into, unless he was force feeding him orange juice and sugar in his sleep...but then, there are other bodily functions, and yeah...they don't make for good TV. So, on TV you can sleep for 10 days and not starve or thirst to death. Maybe it wasn't 10 days. I have to watch the episode again to get the line.
So, where was I?
Sam doesn't remember anything from hell or his year without a soul. This answers my question about whether Sam would have a double memory when he gets back from hell - apparently the answer is: amnesia...only not quite, but we'll get to that.
Dean doesn't tell him anyway, just says it's been a year and a half and leaves it at that.
Bobby doesn't agree - and I'm with Bobby on this one. If you tell him everything, there's less chance of him scratching that wall looking for answers. Though, we all know Sam's going to scratch that wall regardless.
Bobby also says that he's still all creeped out by the attempted-murder thing. Understandable, I suppose. Bobby and Sam have never been as tight as Dean and Bobby...I wonder how Bobby would feel if Dean came back from hell soulless and tried to kill him for a spell?
I think it's hilarious that Dean and Bobby were going to drive to Oregon and just call Sam from the road. Dudes, Oregon is a long way from South Dakota....that's a heck of a trip to plan without telling some dude that's a little more sleepy than usual.
But Sam wakes up and is typically clueless and goes with Dean and Bobby stays home. I liked Sam asking what was up with Bobby and Dean saying "I don't know, 1 part age and 3 parts liquor?" I'm going to remember that for when I'm an alcoholic grandmother like my grandmother before me.
So, they end up in Oregon...and I just have to point out here that since Sam woke up from his nap, he's been wearing all his old clothes. I mean, they're in Oregon and he's wearing a shirt he's had since S1. I haven't done the If Clothes Could Talk for S6 yet, but up until now I've been noticing mostly new shirts, and then suddenly he's in all his old stuff - including his old green jacket...the same old green jacket that he WAS SHOT IN AND THEN FELL INTO THE CAGE WITH. Nice repair job, Robo-Sam. You can hardly tell that thing should have two bullet holes in it.
The thing with this episode is that the monster storyline is really secondary...which is crazy, because you'd think Dragons would be a LITTLE more epic...but no, the epic storyline is Sam and Dean and then it's like "Oh yeah, and there be dragons!"
So, they interview a few people - Sam is all his old empathetic self...Dean is immediately back to his old-self too - cracking jokes and pointing out the benefits of being easy. "Nothing but upsides!" Couldn't agree more, Dean...also, as my friend pointed out, it was nice to have a reverse of the typical horror trope where all the slutty girls die first and only the virgin girls survive. We laughed so hard at Dean's P.Diddy line that we had to rewind to hear the rest of the scene.
Sam starts sort of remembering his soulless year - like deja vu. Dean denies it.
Oh, and somewhere in here...I guess on the way to Oregon, Sam accuses Dean of not even trying with Lisa - and Dean does fess up to being with Lisa and Ben for a full year, but that "it didn't work out" - and that was kind of sad, but also kind of maddening, because you just want to say "TELL HIM DEAN! GEEZ!"
But alas, Dean does not...which means that while Dean is out trying to pull a sword from a stone, Sam thinks "who can I get to tell me the truth"...and he calls Bobby and asks why he's being a Weirdo McWeirderton, but Bobby doesn't take the bait...so Sam prays to Cas....
Cas comes! (no, not in that way...you dirty dirty people)
And man, Cas is HAPPY to see Sam...and doesn't know that Dean hasn't told Sam anything...and this scene was brilliant. I LOVE this scene. Because we get Sam's teary-eyes of emotion, and Cas awkwardly showing happiness and affection...but, but...Cas goes in for a hug and Sam TOTALLY DENIES HIM HUGZ!
SOMEONE HUG THAT ANGEL! OH GOD! HE NEEDS A HUG!
Forgetting Brotherly Hugs, SOMEONE HUG CAS! I felt like jumping in there and doing it myself...oh god...it was torturous. Poor Cas. HUGS FOR CAS!
Ok....anyway, Sam learns the truth....from the person who is going to give him it to him in probably the bluntest way possible...nice going, Dean.
Speaking of Dean, he's off with hot-older-lady. Seriously, who is this lady? She's AWESOME! She lives in an AWESOME house, she's CRAZY good-looking, she knows about DRAGONS, She has some kind of torrid past with Bobby, and she has a sword-in-the-stone IN HER BASEMENT! NEW RECURRING CHARACTER YES? YES?!!
I loved the whole scene of Dean trying to pull the sword from the stone and failing miserably. I mean, he's the Michael-Sword and he can't pull a sword from a stone? SO GREAT! So, he blows it with explosives....also AWESOME!
Of course, he breaks the PRICELESS ARTIFACT. Brilliant. God, I love Dean. Thankfully, he breaks it mid-way down the blade, so it's still usable.
Sam and Dean rush off to rescue virgins from Dragon-men. I once had a dream where dragons could turn into men/women...it was awesome. I was one of them....we were all protecting treasure...good times.
A fight ensues! There are two dragon men! It's a little confusing! Dean can't reach the sword when it falls, but Sam does...is it because he's special, or just because he HAS LONGER ARMS?! I think the latter.
Most of the virgins are rescued! Oh happy day...they will immediately run out into the world and have sex. Why they haven't done so already is a mystery...sex is fun. I highly recommend it.
Then, with the day nicely saved, Sam and Dean head off into the sunset...only Sam is like "DEAN! YOU TOTALLY LIED TO ME! CAS TOLD ME EVERYTHING AND NOW I HAVE CRAZY GUILT ISSUES BECAUSE MY BODY AND BRAIN ARE BASTARDS!"
And Dean is like "Dude, no one cares....except maybe Bobby....."
Then Bobby is like "GUYS! PURGATORY! THEY BE OPENING THE DOOR MAYBE?!"
AND THEY ARE!
And the "MOTHER" is unleashed!
NOW SOMEONE HUG THAT ANGEL!
ETA: A few things I forgot to mention -
1. So many awesome references in this episode - WoW, D&D, ComicCon....
2. Sam momentarily believed Cas was still dead! How sad was that!
3. SFU! I know in this case it stood for San Francisco University...but we had a good 30 seconds there were we were able to pretend they were talking about Simon Fraser University here in Vancouver/Burnaby.
4. HOGWARTS MENTION! Haha...fun.
5. How much did I love Dean for mentioning 12-sided dice? Answer: A WHOLE LOT! D&D nerds FTW.
And now I am sleepy and going to bed. Believe it or not, I've got to work all weekend, so tomorrow is like a Monday for me :(
Let me know what you thought, or what you wished I talked about....
Ok, so before Christmas, the text I was using for my cut text was usually selected from a song that played on my ipod on the walk home from my friends house - today, for some reason, my ipod decided to favour my French-Canadian music...so, um, don't let the French in the cut text fool you, it's all English under the cut :)
SOMEONE GIVE THAT ANGEL A HUG!
Oh, maybe I should start at the beginning, eh?
Um, again...tipsy levels high. My apologies if this is a disjointed review.
So, we start of with a woman and a man in a plane....and THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE WING! Ok, no, there's something outside the plane - it's big and scary, and I didn't actually see it. But the woman does, and she flips...and then the man gets sucked through the airplane windshield and the plane goes down, and I'm thinking "WHERE ARE SAM AND DEAN?! WHO CARES ABOUT THESE PEOPLE!"
Luckily the TV reads my mind, because when we get back, Cas exits the panic room and talks to Dean, and DUDE he's harsh. I don't really get Cas' logic though...I mean, yeah, I understand that putting Sam's soul back inside of him could kill him/permanently injure him - but isn't that better than having his soul continually raped and tortured by Lucifer and Michael in the cage? I mean, even if it makes him a vegetable, at least nothing more bad is happening to him right? RIGHT?! And really, what good is Sam's body walking around if it's not really Sam and you can't trust it at all? If you're going to have to kill Sam's body because it's dangerous, why not kill two birds with one stone and stop Sam's soul-torture too?
Anyway, that all said, I do love Cas' line of "if you wanted to kill your brother, you should have just done it outright" because BURN! OUCH! I love it when Cas gets pissed off.
So, Sam has been sleeping for a while. I'm looking forward to timelining, because I think Bobby mentions that it's been around ten days. With lack of dates, I always like timelining episodes relative to each other.
Anyway, Dean and Bobby are all talky talk in the study, and talking about a Cas, and not expecting Sam to be up anytime soon...and then we hear "Dean?"
And MAN, that was good to hear...I feel bad for Sam waking up alone in the panic room - but man, it must have been trippy for him. He's terrified and falling into the pit and then he's awake in the panic room...and his brother and Bobby are safe and sound upstairs. And we get a hug, and then a Bobby hug...only Bobby's a bit awkward, because...well, attempted murder and all.
Sam is hungry! IT'S THE APOCALYPSE! Oh, wait, no, that already happened. He's just hungry because he's been sleeping for 10 days without an IV drip....perhaps something that Dean should have looked into, unless he was force feeding him orange juice and sugar in his sleep...but then, there are other bodily functions, and yeah...they don't make for good TV. So, on TV you can sleep for 10 days and not starve or thirst to death. Maybe it wasn't 10 days. I have to watch the episode again to get the line.
So, where was I?
Sam doesn't remember anything from hell or his year without a soul. This answers my question about whether Sam would have a double memory when he gets back from hell - apparently the answer is: amnesia...only not quite, but we'll get to that.
Dean doesn't tell him anyway, just says it's been a year and a half and leaves it at that.
Bobby doesn't agree - and I'm with Bobby on this one. If you tell him everything, there's less chance of him scratching that wall looking for answers. Though, we all know Sam's going to scratch that wall regardless.
Bobby also says that he's still all creeped out by the attempted-murder thing. Understandable, I suppose. Bobby and Sam have never been as tight as Dean and Bobby...I wonder how Bobby would feel if Dean came back from hell soulless and tried to kill him for a spell?
I think it's hilarious that Dean and Bobby were going to drive to Oregon and just call Sam from the road. Dudes, Oregon is a long way from South Dakota....that's a heck of a trip to plan without telling some dude that's a little more sleepy than usual.
But Sam wakes up and is typically clueless and goes with Dean and Bobby stays home. I liked Sam asking what was up with Bobby and Dean saying "I don't know, 1 part age and 3 parts liquor?" I'm going to remember that for when I'm an alcoholic grandmother like my grandmother before me.
So, they end up in Oregon...and I just have to point out here that since Sam woke up from his nap, he's been wearing all his old clothes. I mean, they're in Oregon and he's wearing a shirt he's had since S1. I haven't done the If Clothes Could Talk for S6 yet, but up until now I've been noticing mostly new shirts, and then suddenly he's in all his old stuff - including his old green jacket...the same old green jacket that he WAS SHOT IN AND THEN FELL INTO THE CAGE WITH. Nice repair job, Robo-Sam. You can hardly tell that thing should have two bullet holes in it.
The thing with this episode is that the monster storyline is really secondary...which is crazy, because you'd think Dragons would be a LITTLE more epic...but no, the epic storyline is Sam and Dean and then it's like "Oh yeah, and there be dragons!"
So, they interview a few people - Sam is all his old empathetic self...Dean is immediately back to his old-self too - cracking jokes and pointing out the benefits of being easy. "Nothing but upsides!" Couldn't agree more, Dean...also, as my friend pointed out, it was nice to have a reverse of the typical horror trope where all the slutty girls die first and only the virgin girls survive. We laughed so hard at Dean's P.Diddy line that we had to rewind to hear the rest of the scene.
Sam starts sort of remembering his soulless year - like deja vu. Dean denies it.
Oh, and somewhere in here...I guess on the way to Oregon, Sam accuses Dean of not even trying with Lisa - and Dean does fess up to being with Lisa and Ben for a full year, but that "it didn't work out" - and that was kind of sad, but also kind of maddening, because you just want to say "TELL HIM DEAN! GEEZ!"
But alas, Dean does not...which means that while Dean is out trying to pull a sword from a stone, Sam thinks "who can I get to tell me the truth"...and he calls Bobby and asks why he's being a Weirdo McWeirderton, but Bobby doesn't take the bait...so Sam prays to Cas....
Cas comes! (no, not in that way...you dirty dirty people)
And man, Cas is HAPPY to see Sam...and doesn't know that Dean hasn't told Sam anything...and this scene was brilliant. I LOVE this scene. Because we get Sam's teary-eyes of emotion, and Cas awkwardly showing happiness and affection...but, but...Cas goes in for a hug and Sam TOTALLY DENIES HIM HUGZ!
SOMEONE HUG THAT ANGEL! OH GOD! HE NEEDS A HUG!
Forgetting Brotherly Hugs, SOMEONE HUG CAS! I felt like jumping in there and doing it myself...oh god...it was torturous. Poor Cas. HUGS FOR CAS!
Ok....anyway, Sam learns the truth....from the person who is going to give him it to him in probably the bluntest way possible...nice going, Dean.
Speaking of Dean, he's off with hot-older-lady. Seriously, who is this lady? She's AWESOME! She lives in an AWESOME house, she's CRAZY good-looking, she knows about DRAGONS, She has some kind of torrid past with Bobby, and she has a sword-in-the-stone IN HER BASEMENT! NEW RECURRING CHARACTER YES? YES?!!
I loved the whole scene of Dean trying to pull the sword from the stone and failing miserably. I mean, he's the Michael-Sword and he can't pull a sword from a stone? SO GREAT! So, he blows it with explosives....also AWESOME!
Of course, he breaks the PRICELESS ARTIFACT. Brilliant. God, I love Dean. Thankfully, he breaks it mid-way down the blade, so it's still usable.
Sam and Dean rush off to rescue virgins from Dragon-men. I once had a dream where dragons could turn into men/women...it was awesome. I was one of them....we were all protecting treasure...good times.
A fight ensues! There are two dragon men! It's a little confusing! Dean can't reach the sword when it falls, but Sam does...is it because he's special, or just because he HAS LONGER ARMS?! I think the latter.
Most of the virgins are rescued! Oh happy day...they will immediately run out into the world and have sex. Why they haven't done so already is a mystery...sex is fun. I highly recommend it.
Then, with the day nicely saved, Sam and Dean head off into the sunset...only Sam is like "DEAN! YOU TOTALLY LIED TO ME! CAS TOLD ME EVERYTHING AND NOW I HAVE CRAZY GUILT ISSUES BECAUSE MY BODY AND BRAIN ARE BASTARDS!"
And Dean is like "Dude, no one cares....except maybe Bobby....."
Then Bobby is like "GUYS! PURGATORY! THEY BE OPENING THE DOOR MAYBE?!"
AND THEY ARE!
And the "MOTHER" is unleashed!
NOW SOMEONE HUG THAT ANGEL!
ETA: A few things I forgot to mention -
1. So many awesome references in this episode - WoW, D&D, ComicCon....
2. Sam momentarily believed Cas was still dead! How sad was that!
3. SFU! I know in this case it stood for San Francisco University...but we had a good 30 seconds there were we were able to pretend they were talking about Simon Fraser University here in Vancouver/Burnaby.
4. HOGWARTS MENTION! Haha...fun.
5. How much did I love Dean for mentioning 12-sided dice? Answer: A WHOLE LOT! D&D nerds FTW.
And now I am sleepy and going to bed. Believe it or not, I've got to work all weekend, so tomorrow is like a Monday for me :(
Let me know what you thought, or what you wished I talked about....
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Date: 2011-02-05 09:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-05 06:25 pm (UTC)I agree with you about this episode setting it up so that hopefully people will stop complaining...not that I read other reviews besides my own usually - I REALLY hate negativity. :P
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Date: 2011-02-05 12:08 pm (UTC)Okay, maybe I am seeing things, but I can see that plastic bag with clear liquid hanging besides Sam's head. In that moment, when Castiel has just left Dean, and the camera shows Sam sleeping in the bed.
I have never used the insert picture thing, but I hope it works:
You can hardly tell that thing should have two bullet holes in it.
I LOVE the way you talk about the clothes and their awesome skills with repairing them [And about the holes - maybe that's what Dean was doing all those days while waiting for Sam? sewing together every clothing item he could get his hands on?]
I was afraid for a moment that when they talked about what Dean had done that year (if he had gone to Lisa or not) after Sam's disbelief - that Dean would leave it at that. But I was so glad that he actually said that he had been there. I don't know why, but at that moment this little bit of truth seemed very important, especially because he tried to hide everything else.
Apart from that - once again enjoyed your reaction :)
And yes. Someone really should HUG THAT ANGEL!
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Date: 2011-02-05 06:34 pm (UTC)I'm glad you like my obsession with their clothes :P It's fun for me too.
I agree about Dean's year with Lisa and Ben being important - mainly because the way Dean saw it (and maybe the way Sam saw it too) that promise was Sam's dying wish...I think it would have been really insulting if Dean made Sam believe that he never even tried.
It's a good thing I don't live in Misha's neighbourhood. I'd probably get wires crossed in my brain and tackle hug him in the street because I really think Cas needs a hug now :P
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Date: 2011-02-05 01:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-05 06:37 pm (UTC)Anyway, once you see it, drop back by and let me know if I missed talking about anything important!
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Date: 2011-02-06 03:28 pm (UTC)I think you got all the pertinent details...and I totally agree with you that Lady Doc with the sword needs to be a recurring character. She was totally awesome, and has a lot of potential. And the scenes of Dean and the sword? Epic awesomeness.
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Date: 2011-02-06 05:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-06 05:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-06 05:53 pm (UTC)And yes, Jensen does everything wonderfully.
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Date: 2011-02-05 01:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-05 06:39 pm (UTC)Indeed! I loved all the references! Really smartly written dialog in this episode :)
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Date: 2011-02-05 02:35 pm (UTC)Yes, the geek references all killed me and Dean smirked, spouted his humor (Sam: "I've been to Hell and you still aren't funny") and indulged in all his fantasies (pulling sword out of stone to slay dragon and then blowing up stone to retrieve sword even if Sam slayed dragon #2).
I feel like this episode is on track to feeling the the brotherly vibe again even with extra tensions. It is so like Sam to try to make up for his past. Jared did such an awesome job going from soulless Sam to seemingly normal Sam with a few blips that had him suspicious (Bobby: "Sam's smart. He'll figure out something is going on"). Honestly, not only does Castiel need a hug or two, Sam does as well with all the torment his soul has endured. I cannot wait to see what the Mother brings to the show.
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Date: 2011-02-05 06:45 pm (UTC)A commenter below you (kaybee751) posited the theory that perhaps Sam has a subconscious aversion to angels after being in hell for 1.5 years with two of them - but, who knows, it could just be because Castiel and Sam have never been all that close and Sam's not quite sure what their relationship is. Up until now, Cas has mostly hung out with Dean, except for the brief period in S5 when Dean was being an ass.
Jared has really impressed me...basically starting in S4, but I feel like they've really given him opportunity to shine with this season.
And yes, Sam really needs more hugs too.
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Date: 2011-02-05 06:14 pm (UTC)Just jumping in:
The thing with this episode is that the monster storyline is really secondary...which is crazy, because you'd think Dragons would be a LITTLE more epic...but no, the epic storyline is Sam and Dean and then it's like "Oh yeah, and there be dragons!"
100 times yes! I mean, it was fine with the brother-thingy and Bobby-thingy, but I really missed the plot of the case. Seriously, I don't mind that the dragons were humanoid, that was to be expected, considering the TV-show-budget. But they could've... ah, whatever.
Forgetting Brotherly Hugs, SOMEONE HUG CAS! I felt like jumping in there and doing it myself...oh god...it was torturous. Poor Cas. HUGS FOR CAS!
Yeah, I felt bad for Cas as well. Why didn't Sam hug him? On the other hand, why was Cas so over-the-top happy that Sam was back and healthy? Why is he so cold towards Dean but to Sam he's all cute and sweet? Is it because Dean is a cold bastard and doesn't think about Cas's problems a lot of the time?
Or... well, does he LIKE Sam better? Which I would be ok with, if it didn't come out of left field. Since when? He's been calling him an abomination a lot of the time, so why?
Cas is weird.
Ok....anyway, Sam learns the truth....from the person who is going to give him it to him in probably the bluntest way possible...nice going, Dean.
Well, I was kinda mentally yelling at Dean for AGAIN trying to keep Sam in the dark about bad stuff. I mean, he should know better, right?
On the other hand, even though it sucks that Sam had to go and find someone NOT his brother to tell him, I think it was good that it was Cas who told him.
Because Cas wouldn't color it with emotion and maybe blame and bitterness, like Bobby might, or say: "It wasn't YOU" every two sentences like Dean would.
Dean would evade, say "not important, it's just important that you're back" - and Sam wouldn't be wiser. So I think it was good that Cas was the one.
And Dean will be the one who helps him deal with it - somehow.
So all in all, a nice ep, but a bit boring. Ah, well. Maybe next one.
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Date: 2011-02-05 06:58 pm (UTC)I agree. I'm not sure how they could have beefed up the dragon storyline more - maybe they were just trying to cram too much into the episode? Who knows...but it needed SOMETHING. Anyway, I'm not a television-writer. Overall, I loved the episode anyway.
Why didn't Sam hug him? On the other hand, why was Cas so over-the-top happy that Sam was back and healthy? Why is he so cold towards Dean but to Sam he's all cute and sweet? Is it because Dean is a cold bastard and doesn't think about Cas's problems a lot of the time?
Or... well, does he LIKE Sam better? Which I would be ok with, if it didn't come out of left field. Since when? He's been calling him an abomination a lot of the time, so why?
You sent my mind a'whirring with these questions, and I might do a post about it...but in the meantime, I'll see if I can figure out the answers here:
I think Cas honestly thought Dean had "killed" Sam and was happy to see him up and around. When Robo-Sam came back the first time, Cas knew about it, but the war in heaven was fierce and he didn't have any answers to Sam's questions, so he may have been just as happy, but not able to come right away and express that instant-happyness.
I don't think Cas calling Sam an abomination was in any way an indication that Cas didn't like Sam just as much as Dean...especially by the end of S5, when Dean had been a complete ass and Sam hadn't. I think Cas is just horribly blunt and honest. He called Sam an abomination because Sam IS an abomination. It's like me calling my sister a diabetic. To Cas, Sam being an abomination is just a statement of fact, not a comment on their friendship or Sam's worth.
I think Cas is cold towards Dean (especially in this season so far) because Dean is really mean to him and not-understanding. We see a bit of the friendly warm Cas, when Dean takes a MOMENT to be considerate - like at the end of Caged Heat where he tells Cas that their his friends and if he ever needs anything to let them know...you can see Cas melting a bit at that.
So, yeah, I think he likes both brothers the same, but Sam has been consistently more polite and nice with him (especially when souled) and Cas just responds to the way he's treated.
But that isn't to say that Cas isn't weird ;)
And yes, I agree, maybe Cas WAS the perfect person to lay out the facts for Sam. Especially since he wasn't around for all of it...like, does Cas know about Sam letting Dean get turned into a vampire? Or does Sam just know the basics and the events that Cas was there for?
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Date: 2011-02-05 08:03 pm (UTC)Yeah, I agree. I never thought he didn't like Sam. He just never really expressed that he does like Sam.
And dude, Dean can be such an ass. I wonder why. Is it still some bad blood from being jerked around? Or... maybe just not able to deal with it? Maybe he'll be more involved in that war now that his main concern is over?
Ah... whatever.
Especially since he wasn't around for all of it...like, does Cas know about Sam letting Dean get turned into a vampire? Or does Sam just know the basics and the events that Cas was there for?
I think he would only tell Sam about what HE knows, right? He wasn't there half the time, was he? So how could he know about it.
I damn well HOPE they don't let Sam know everything. I want some angsting and all. On the other hand.... what would he be apologizing to Dean? Getting him away from Lisa, maybe? And I really would like some un-compartmentalizing (uh...sorry, bad word...) from Dean's side, like maybe they meet a vamp and Dean is all "uh...yeah, sorry, bad memories" and Sam all: "Huh?"
You know?
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Date: 2011-02-05 08:12 pm (UTC)I think Cas likes both Sam and Dean. They were there for him when no one else was, after all. He just usually doesn't express those feelings - I mean, just as we only get brotherly hugs when someone comes back from the dead, Cas probably only shows affection when someone comes back from the dead.
And yes, I hope Cas didn't tell Sam everything too...because it'd be great fodder for future revelations. I think when Sam was apologizing to Dean, he was just apologizing for being soulless in general...or maybe because Cas told him that it was SAM who called Dean away from Lisa and Ben...who knows.
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Date: 2011-02-05 06:19 pm (UTC)Maybe Sam's heartbreaking inability to hug Cas was there to balance Dean's happiness at having his Sammy back? Or maybe avoidance of contact with an angel = instinct, after all those months in the cage (even with his memories behind a wall)?
I swear, no more purple nurples before Supernatural... OK, maybe one or two.
Ha ha, spell check is trying to change "nurples" to "nipples." Er, no.
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Date: 2011-02-05 07:01 pm (UTC)I like your theory on avoidance of angels being instinct! That's an interesting thought. :)
I should probably wait next week until I actually have food in my stomach before I start drinking :P
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Date: 2011-02-05 10:10 pm (UTC)Anyhoo - SFU was, in fact, just there for us - !! There's no SFU in San Francisco, it's University of San Francisco or USF. Unless Google is completely misleading me.
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Date: 2011-02-05 10:12 pm (UTC)Well, not cool about the ComicCon tickets...I wonder if there's an alternate way to snafu one.
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Date: 2011-02-05 11:25 pm (UTC)Also: Dean calling RoboSam the "T-1000" was possibly a tribute to Kim Manners via X-Files?
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Date: 2011-02-05 11:33 pm (UTC)I thought that was a Terminator reference...
I'll cross my fingers for you on returns.
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Date: 2011-02-05 11:51 pm (UTC)I really don't have this userpic thing figured out. Will need your expert assistance on this after all :P
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Date: 2011-02-05 11:54 pm (UTC)I thought T-1000 was pretty hot, personally. I have a thing for liquid metals. ;)
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Date: 2011-02-06 06:20 am (UTC)Also: basements. They just don't happen here.
(and I'm so happy to finally get to do some location pedantry.)
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Date: 2011-02-06 06:33 am (UTC)I think saying it SFU was an inside joke. Though, that's what I thought when they had Sioux Falls University - only, I discovered there actually was a University in Sioux Falls...but yeah, SFU isn't that far away from the Supernatural Studios, so I'm fairly sure it's a little joke.
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Date: 2011-02-06 07:05 am (UTC)The funniest little instance of location pedantry for me was actually in some random episode of Sliders I saw once,which also had been filmed in Vancouver. So they had a hill with San Francisco-esque houses, it was passable....except that there was snow on the ground. Which was kind of funny, because with reality-hopping, sure, that could be part of it....except that went totally unremarked. (Whereas in reality, no matter how many women there were with mustaches or naked people or whatever running around, most people would be going, "holy shit, snow!)
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Date: 2011-02-06 07:15 am (UTC)I got a laugh in 6x11, where Dean went to 250 Keefer St. in Chinatown. I was like "wow, they've just given up on saying it's someplace else..." :P
I don't think there's many places around here that look like San Francisco, personally...at least, not the famous row-houses. They'd be better off filming on the east coast of Canada for that.
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Date: 2011-02-06 07:27 am (UTC)In this case, it did look a lot like some of the other neighborhoods, except for the houses having porches.
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Date: 2011-02-06 07:30 am (UTC)Well that's cool to know. I've never been to San Francisco, so all I know of it is that stock footage that everyone uses. :P
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Date: 2011-02-06 07:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-06 08:34 am (UTC)Back in Ontario, there were more houses with front stoops instead of porches...but out here, you can't throw a stone without hitting someone's porch with it. At least in my neighbourhood anyway. :P
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Date: 2011-02-06 09:00 am (UTC)And this has been relatively true even here in Tahoe, where all the snow makes decks impractical. Everyone's got one. And they're huuuge.