Damn You Kripke!

[hells_half_acre]

I've long since been slightly annoyed by the fact that everyone is obsessed with wanting to know the reason why Dean's eyes bleed in Bloody Mary. I've always felt that it wasn't a question at all - my explanation:

1. At that point the spirit is a cornered animal, it's self-defense to go after Dean no matter what he's done in his past.
2. Dean's the type of guy to blame himself for deaths even if they weren't his fault.
3. When Dean failed let the Shtriga get to Sam and failed to kill it while it was feeding on Sam, which in turn caused the distraction of John driving them to Pastor Jim's giving time for the Shtriga to escape, all those kids the Shtriga was sucking dry probably died - and Dean probably blames himself for that just as much as he blames himself for letting Sam get hurt.

So, to me, Dean's eyes' bleeding was a non-issue. Then, last night I was reading the Supernatural Companion to Season 1, and came across this quote from Kripke: "There is something in his past - we've always known it. It's been in the core of the character from the time we created him. We will reveal it...."

Damn it! The thing is: I'm sure Kripke has forgotten. Dean has gone and done way worse things since then - torturing people in hell and enjoying it, breaking the first seal...there's no way they're going to do an episode where some secret from his youth is revealed, because at this point Sam (and us) will just be like "Oh, 's'at all? Whatever." 

So, I really don't think we'll ever know what Kripke intended, because I'm pretty sure he doesn't intend it anymore. I could be wrong, but I doubt I am. 

I much preferred my version of why Dean's eyes bled...instead of Kripke telling us he actually did intend something...because now I'm all curious as to what it was he originally intended.

Comments

[contrary-lady.livejournal.com]

I heard some people say that the events in In The Beginning (not being able to stop Mary from making the deal with Yellow Eyes) is what caused Dean's eyes to bleed in Bloody Mary. If that's true, Kripke is an asshole. That would mean that everything that Sam & Dean have done these past few years was predestined and they couldn't have avoided any of it.

[hells-half-acre.livejournal.com]

In the commentary to In The Beginning, Kripke says that he always saw it as a closed loop - the YED targeted Mary because Dean led her to him, Dean led her to him because the YED targeted Mary. You get into a bunch of time-paradoxes, but basically it does come down to it all being predestined...which sort of sucks, or another way to look at it is that once the loop starts, there is no escaping it - so, Mary's choice to get out of bed, Dean's choice to involve the Campbells in the 1973 Hunt made it an inescapable loop, though caused by free-will.

That being said, I assumed that the crimes Bloody Mary accused people of had to be crimes they were AWARE of. Even if that wasn't the case though, if you look at Dean's life as an individual time-stream separate from regular time - the events of In The Beginning had not happened yet for him. They had happened for the rest of the world, but not his particular time-stream. I know this is getting into sort of Doctor Who timey-whimey stuff, but what I'm trying to say is that if it WAS the events in ITB, I'd be extremely disappointed in Kripke.

[contrary-lady.livejournal.com]

It's the time stream thing that bothers me too. How could season 1 Dean even know about, let alone feel guilty about what happenedwhen season 4 Dean went back in time?

[hells-half-acre.livejournal.com]

Exactly! So, I highly doubt that's it...I think claudiapriscus nailed it below...