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I've long since been slightly annoyed by the fact that everyone is obsessed with wanting to know the reason why Dean's eyes bleed in Bloody Mary. I've always felt that it wasn't a question at all - my explanation:

1. At that point the spirit is a cornered animal, it's self-defense to go after Dean no matter what he's done in his past.
2. Dean's the type of guy to blame himself for deaths even if they weren't his fault.
3. When Dean failed let the Shtriga get to Sam and failed to kill it while it was feeding on Sam, which in turn caused the distraction of John driving them to Pastor Jim's giving time for the Shtriga to escape, all those kids the Shtriga was sucking dry probably died - and Dean probably blames himself for that just as much as he blames himself for letting Sam get hurt.

So, to me, Dean's eyes' bleeding was a non-issue. Then, last night I was reading the Supernatural Companion to Season 1, and came across this quote from Kripke: "There is something in his past - we've always known it. It's been in the core of the character from the time we created him. We will reveal it...."

Damn it! The thing is: I'm sure Kripke has forgotten. Dean has gone and done way worse things since then - torturing people in hell and enjoying it, breaking the first seal...there's no way they're going to do an episode where some secret from his youth is revealed, because at this point Sam (and us) will just be like "Oh, 's'at all? Whatever." 

So, I really don't think we'll ever know what Kripke intended, because I'm pretty sure he doesn't intend it anymore. I could be wrong, but I doubt I am. 

I much preferred my version of why Dean's eyes bled...instead of Kripke telling us he actually did intend something...because now I'm all curious as to what it was he originally intended.

Date: 2010-01-11 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] followingabdiel.livejournal.com
I totally thought the same thing--that Dean's guilt/bleeding eyes were associated with the shtriga. But I have the Season 1 Companion, too, and Kripke definitely leads us to believe something else was at work there. Doesn't he know that we fans question things like this? He's so wrong for not explaining that--it should have been resolved in Season 2 or Season 3 at the latest. Because you're right--slipping it in now would be too anti-climactic. It's never going to come up. :(

So have you read any fics that go for a 'not a shrtiga' explanation for Dean's bleeding eyes?

Date: 2010-01-11 11:17 pm (UTC)
ext_44587: Sam from "It's A Terrible Life" (SPN: Sam & Dean: Load Guns)
From: [identity profile] contrary-lady.livejournal.com
I heard some people say that the events in In The Beginning (not being able to stop Mary from making the deal with Yellow Eyes) is what caused Dean's eyes to bleed in Bloody Mary. If that's true, Kripke is an asshole. That would mean that everything that Sam & Dean have done these past few years was predestined and they couldn't have avoided any of it.

Date: 2010-01-12 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com
My guess is that there really wasn't an explanation. Or rather, I agree with you about it being pretty obvious/unimportant- either the spirit was just that pissed off, or it's a product of Dean's character, or it's just the kind of thing that would apply to pretty much any hunter (the link between the secret and someone's death).

My guess is what Kripke really meant was something like, "If we make something up in the future, we can throw a reference back to this and it will look like clever continuity."

Date: 2010-01-12 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trystan830.livejournal.com
i agree with your explainations - #2 ties in with #3 nicely.

and yes, i'm sure Eric's forgotten. it was probably something he meant to use, but the story went another way, so that now it's like no big deal.

but i'm curious now too to know what he originally intended! damn it, Kripke! :D

Date: 2010-01-14 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mymuseandi.livejournal.com
I don't know what's the reason that Dean's eyes bled, but i always thought that he did some terrible thing in his youth that he feels guilty for.

And you are right about it being anti-climatic now. Although it would be interesting to see what it is *looking for an excuse to bring all the wee!Winchesters back* :)

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