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I got my DVDs today! Yay! Slightly different packaging than my other three seasons, but it looks the same from the outside!

Sadly, I tried to watch the on my laptop and it couldn't even make it through the commercial at the beginning of the disc. So, I have no choice but to watch it on my sister's very dark TV. :-(

On to the fun stuff!

Lazarus Rising

Awesome!

Seriously, this is, in my personal opinion, one of the best episodes of Supernatural ever. I think it's right up there with In My Time Of Dying.

The other thing I like about it, it starts off with a date...haha, I'm a timelining fool.

So, our newly resurrected hero sees the light of day on September 18th, 2008...oddly at a closed gas station. Why a gas station is closed during daylight hours on a Thursday, yet has an up-to-date newspaper....mind you, nearby it DID look like a nuke had gone off. Maybe the owners locked up and ran for the hills.

You can see the band-aid on Jensen's arm as he picks himself up off the floor after the glass shatters...I must say though, kudos to Mr. Manners, all that real glass shattering looked phenomenal.

Dean digs himself out of his own grave just outside of Pontiac, Illinois. He died in New Harmony, Indiana. That means that after Dean died, Sam put him in clean clothes and drove 5 HOURS to bury him in Illinois! On my never-to-be-answered Wish-list: Why Sam? Man, I would love to see that dramatized.

Dean steals a classic car and drives to Bobby's - also about a 9 hour journey.

I LOVE the reactions in this episode. The way Bobby attacks, goes through everything Dean could be that isn't Dean...how when he believes it, you can practically feel the hug yourself...even though he promptly throws holy-water on him. Haha.

We find out that Dean has been buried for 4 months. This supports the May date for the deal. You can take the date literally: 4 months, therefore Dean died on May 18...or you can figure that they rounded down, so Dean died on May 2nd (which, apparently according to the Season 2 Companion book, he did.) Man, Sam's birthday SUCKED in 2008.

I like that Dean brings up Sam casually...like he isn't freaking out that he can't get in touch with Sam. Yet, Bobby knows, because the first thing he answers is "he's alive" and it's only at Dean's relief that you even realize that it was a possibility for Dean that Sam wouldn't be.

Bobby: "You think he made a deal?"
Dean: "It's what I would've done."
-Oh Dean, it's what you DID do...

And then Dean comments on the amount of liquor at Bobby's, like he didn't realize that maybe him getting killed might actually affect the people he left behind...oh Dean.

We get the Winchester Reunion...and it's everything you could want, because Sam is LIVID that something would dare show up in his brother's body, and then he's just coming apart when he realizes that it really is Dean.

But then, setting the tone for the season early, the first thing they do is fight. Dean comes out swinging, accusing Sam of making a deal and not believing him when he says he didn't...and a taste of things to come, the argument ends with Sam saying he's sorry - and meaning it - you can just tell how much he means it - that he feels like he failed Dean for not being the one to save him. Dean's response of "It's ok, Sammy" in that tone of voice that's so full of affection, man, I hope that's foreshadowing too.

I should point out here, that the Dean and Sam reunion took place on the SECOND day of Dean's resurrection. Dean drove from Pontiac, Illinois, to Bobby's place (9 hours) probably slept at Bobby's that night, and then drove back to Pontiac to find Sam the next day (arriving in the evening).

Then Sam gives back the Amulet...and man, it does stuff to the heart to think of Sam wearing the Amulet all summer...feeling it thump against his chest...

Of course, Dean has to match Sam's lies toe for toe...and that's another thing that marks the theme for the season. Lying! Those boys just start lying first thing. Sam saying Ruby's dead, that's he's not using his powers, Dean telling Sam he doesn't remember hell.

Also, I didn't realize this until months and months after the episode aired...but when Dean is looking in the mirror and you see the flashes of Hell...I realized that what he is doing is checking on the colour of my his eyes. Man, it breaks my heart.

Anyway, Psychic Pamela lives 4 hours from Pontiac.

And apparently Dean "almost forgot" about the Impala! I think really THAT'S a mark of how much Dean lost himself in Hell. It's a scary thought.

I love Pamela telling Dean she had to touch something the 'monster' touched, and then groping him. "Well he didn't touch me there!" - Haha...

Clothes Sharing!: Dean is wearing one of Sam's flannel shirts and one of Sam's brown jackets when they visit the diner. The cuffs come down so low passed his jacket, they cover half his hands...and when they walk out of the place you can see that the rest of it is loose on him too.

After the "attack" in the hotel room in Pontiac, we get a little in-episode foreshadowing, when Bobby asks how Dean is and he says, "Besides the church-bells ringing in my ears, just peachy."

Another line I love:
Dean: "What other choice do we have?"
Bobby: "We could choose life!"

Finally! We have the epic-entrance of Castiel! I think Castiel should be the angel of entrances. He cuts right to the chase, right through Dean's issues..."you think you don't deserve to be saved."

Then there's the tease of Castiel talking about how "certain people" can see his true visage and hear his true voice, and that he thought Dean was one of them. Oh man, "certain people"...I love the unanswered questions and speculation that causes.

Extended Scene:

It's the Dean meets Castiel scene, of course. I believe this one found it's way to the internet mid-way through last year. The only difference (besides being non-colour-corrected and a different take then the one they used) is that Castiel tells us that it's hard to find people "durable enough to contain me" and Dean says, "I have the same problem with women."

Haha, man, it's an awesome line. And even more amusing given the fact that out of the sex-scenes we've seen with Dean, he always seems extremely gentle to his lovers...unlike Sam, who has a tendency to eat faces.

Seriously though, I have the same problem.


Are You There God? It's Me, Dean Winchester

We hear Bobby's voice on poor Olivia's answering machine, telling her that he's "got something big"...which actually might place her death a few days before the episode starts for the Winchesters.

Again, the boys are arguing. I love Dean's line of "I was not groped by an angel!" just before Bobby interrupts them.

Dean is still going on about how he doesn't understand why *he* was saved, and Sam's low "Dean" has just the right tone to it, because you know Sam is thinking that these are Dean's self-esteem issues coming up - and they are...he just doesn't know that there's so much more behind them now.

Line I love:
Dean: "I don't like getting singled out at birthday parties...."
-Man, I don't either! But now I've got this image of Dean at a birthday party - seriously, did the boys ever have birthday parties? I don't see why Dean would be singled out at someone else's birthday party.

My favorite part of the exchange between Sam and Ruby is when Sam says, "I'm not scared of angels" and Ruby just gives him a look and it's enough to shake his confidence...Sam, search your feelings, you know what you are doing is wrong...

My sister thought I should keep track of what episodes Dean mentions pie in...so far, both.

FYI: Hunters that died: Olivia, Jed, Carl Bates, RC Adams.

Henriksen returns! Awesome.

We see the upstairs of Bobby's house! It has gorgeous stain-glass windows...and apparently a bunch of rooms and a linen closet (and really nice red woodwork).

Meg: "You think you're some kind of hero?"
Dean: "No, I don't."
(oh Dean...)

And then there's this gorgeous hint when Meg is talking about what happened to her little sister:
Meg: "She was never the same after I disappeared - she just got lost."

Panic room! Bobby IS awesome.

I love how Sam says, "the fireplace in the library"...the library? Apparently Bobby doesn't have a living room. He has a 'library' off of his kitchen with a couch in it. God, I love the weird world of the Winchesters. (Off topic: Did you know that the 'living room' was a term invented when it became unfashionable to hold wakes in your own house...before then living rooms were parlours. Then, to encourage people not to hold wakes in their houses, it was renamed "the living room" - ie: a room for the living, not the dead....and Bobby doesn't even have one. He just has a library.)

Meg knows about Ruby! But curiously, she brings Sam to task over the bodies, not the umm...other shenanigans.

All those rooms in Bobby's house, and for some reason, Dean is sleeping on the floor and Sam is squished onto the couch...in the library. Again, on my never-to-be-answered wish-list: Why?

These early S4 episodes are interesting, because I think it's before they really got into the grove of who Castiel was. He's really emoting in this one - annoyed...and seems to be more understanding of Dean's reactions and feelings than he is in later episodes.

What I'm interested in is the fact that 6 angels died that week. 6! We learn later that only angels can kill angels...so, has the angel killing started already? Or can other things kill angels? Or the writers just not made the angels-kill-angels rule yet?

Then, Cas gives me what I came for: "Three days ago you didn't believe in angels" (or does he say 'me'? or does he say something else? I forgot to write the exact quote down.) But that means that this episode begins (for the Winchesters) two days after Dean met Castiel, and Dean met Castiel (by my count) on Sept 20th, so this episode starts (for the Winchesters) on Sept 22nd. Which means the day before, when Bobby told Dean that he'd been trying to get in touch with Olivia for three days, he probably started trying to get in touch with her on early on Sept 20th, before he knew it was an angel, but possibly after it burnt out Pam's eyes, which is why he just says "something big."

No extras for this episode on the DVD.
 

Date: 2009-09-09 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auriliawestlake.livejournal.com
I, too, have wondered just why Sam drove so far before burying Dean - though I do have a few theories on it: The place is the location of a cherished childhood memory; it was the first convenient location ('cause you just know a whole shitload of cops were called at some point following the conclusion of S3); Sam was just in shock and driving aimlessly until Bobby made him pull off and tend to Dean; or it could just be that the writers forgot to double-check the location of the whole Lilith/hellhound showdown.

As to the gas station being closed...well, it is kinda out in the middle of nowhere. I grew up in the middle of nowhere, and the local gas station/pizza parlor tended to be closed at exceedingly odd times (especially if the owner - a single mom - had to deal with her kids being sick) - so, to my way of thinking, it's not as odd as it would have been had the station been in a larger town.

And with the whole why-did-they-sleep-there situation, I kinda figured that they hadn't intended to actually fall asleep where they did. I think they tried to stay up and talk about what happened and what might happen, only to sorta crash and burn where they sat. Besides, I like to think that the boys have their own room at Bobby's place (and just the one room, mind, I don't care if Bobby's got a trillion empty bedrooms going begging, I can't see the boys not sharing unless there's a girl involved - and I highly doubt they would bring a girl back to 'uncle' Bobby's place).

Date: 2009-09-09 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I think all of your theories are sound. I also like the one where the boys accidentally fall asleep in the living room/library. It seems fitting with the fact that every other time we see Dean sleeping in this episode, it seems to be by accident. I also like the idea of the boys having their own shared room at 'Uncle' Bobby's place. Even excluding when they were kids, they've spent a lot of time recovering there in recent years, and Bobby loves them to pieces...there's no way they were sleeping on the floor of the library that whole time :P

I like the idea of Sam sort of driving aimlessly...trying to find a good place to put Dean - far enough away that no one will dig him up, yet close enough that if Sam can save him, he can get to him quickly.

Date: 2009-09-10 08:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liliaeth
I'm thinking that another reason why Dean was burried so far from the place he died, is because Sam instantly started looking for ways to bring him back. In fact, he might have kept him in the back of the car for more than just those five hours.

(You know, until Bobby practically forced him to 'finally' burry Dean somewhere, saying that they won't help Dean, if the cops catch them driving around with a corpse in the car.

Date: 2009-09-10 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Wow...now I'm all gut-wrenched at the thought of Sam driving around with Dean's corpse, trying to save him before he starts rotting too much...keeping the windows down, and dragging him into cool motel rooms at night..and man, gross!

Date: 2009-09-10 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liliaeth
And I'm pretty sure that Dean wouldn't be too happy with Sam if he ever found out about it... Just think about what having a corpse in the car would do to the Impala, even if it's Dean's own corpse

Date: 2009-09-10 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Oh man...now that's a fight I'd like to see. "You kept my corpse in here for HOW MANY DAYS?! No wonder the backseat smells like a mortuary! SAM!"

Date: 2012-10-22 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanloo.livejournal.com
Hmm. the anticipation for Lazarus Rising. The long, long, very long summer until the return of Dean. I loved the episode, but as you said, it set the tone for the season. Lies, lies and more lies.

I liked the entrance of Castiel. As I said before, I liked him in season four when he was a powerful angel.

Poor Bobby, mourning Dean. Poor Dean with his low self worth, not understanding why people may actually be sad that he is no longer alive.

Sam, wanting to kill a monster that has the cojones to pretend to be his brother. The amulet. Where oh where is it now. :(

Just as a sidenote: I want to rec a story by bardicvoice. It is called 'Last Rites', she writes about how Bobby and Sam took care of Dean's body after 'No rest for the wicked'. To me it should be canon.

http://bardicvoice.livejournal.com/33182.html

Regarding AyTGimDW, in the Supernatural universe, no character is ever dead and never seen again. LOL I think that is one of reasons that SPN is a great show, besides the relationship between the two brothers.

Regarding your comment about having Dean's decomposing body in the Impala, that would probably be worse than the dog smell of season eight. LOL
Edited Date: 2012-10-24 12:32 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-26 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I'm one of the few fans who is fine with the amulet being gone. I was outraged when Dean threw it away, but I don't actually care anymore :P

That's a very nice story by bardicvoice. I don't think I had read that one before. Poor Sam.

And yeah, let's hope Sam also stuffed the impala full of flowers or something to offset the smell of corpse :P

Date: 2012-10-26 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanloo.livejournal.com
Flowers?
LOL, that would be ten times worse than dead Dean and dog combined.

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