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Speak of the devil! UPS showed up with my DVDs this morning, so this afternoon I was able to dive right in and rewatch the pilot. Now, I must admit, I've seen parts of the pilot several times now, because I watched a few scenes on Youtube while I was writing my last story. The cool thing about the DVD though is that they have deleted scenes and commentary! Yay!

It's really odd to see the boys looking so young. Well, mostly Jared. He's all skinny and lanky, not at all like now - when I like to refer to him as COLOSSUS. (Any guesses as to my favorite X-Man?). Jensen, I figured always looked the same - I was wrong though, mostly I can hear it in his voice...and of course he had a slightly spikier hair-cut then, which I must admit I sometimes miss.

Deleted Scenes Coolness:

One of the deleted scenes from the Pilot is Dean, after he drives away from Sam's place at the end. It adds a further clue for my "Why did Dean go back to Sam's" mystery. In the deleted scene, he's driving away, looks down at his watch, you see the that the time is 2:50am...and then Dean turns the car around and heads back to Sam's. So, now my question is "What is so special about ten to three in the morning that caused Dean to turn that car around?"

Things I Love:

I love it in the Pilot how Dean and Sam have absolutely no sense of time. I mean, Dean shows up in the middle of the night for Sam - fine, that's Dean for you. But then Sam agrees to go and they just leave RIGHT AWAY! Haha...I mean, it makes sense since Sam is on a schedule, but I just love the fact that there's no mention of it. There's just an acceptance. And then when Dean drops him off again, it's almost 3am. Again, makes sense, because if Dean keeps driving he can be in Colorado by morning (or so he says). I just think that it really sets up the character of the show well, without directly pointing and saying "WHEN IT GETS DARK, THE WINCHESTERS GET TO WORK!" It just happens that way. You actually don't see any of the Winchesters in the day until Sam and Dean are at that gas station and Sam is criticizing Dean's cassette-tapes.

Another thing I absolutely love: The fight scene between Sam and Dean in Sam's apartment. Although I rarely enjoy Wincest, there's just something about that move Sam uses to flip Dean at the end (after he recognizes him) that gets me everytime. Maybe I just like watching cute boys wrestle...but damn, that move is pretty frickin' sweet.

Commentary Tidbits:

Kripke said that he played with the idea of Sam coming back to his apartment and finding his Dad dead on the ceiling, and Jess lived but turned evil or something. Man, Kripke has some bad ideas before he has the good ones! That would have sucked. I can't imagine missing out on the glory that is John Winchester as played by JDM.

The conversation between Sam and Dean when Dean first shows up, where Sam is complaining about their childhood and explaining to Dean why he wanted to leave, was actually originally longer and went into more depth about what exactly their childhoods were like. Now, I think in terms of the show, it's a lot better that they shortened it....because it's already sort of an awkward unrealistic conversation that you can tell is solely there to inform the audience...but man, I'm such a wee!chester junkie, it would have been pretty sweet to be able to hear the extended version - but alas, not included in the deleted scenes.

So, there you go. My thoughts on the rewatch (and rewatch with commentary) on the Pilot. Good times were had by all (I'm assuming the dog enjoyed it as much as I did). It didn't inspire any fic ideas, but then, I've already written one Pilot centered fic.


*Special Note to My Lovely, just in case: Don't read these! Watch the show! I don't want to spoil it for you more than I already have! Sheesh...*

Date: 2008-12-12 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzykitty.livejournal.com
I think their accents are much more noticeable in early episodes, especially Jared's. The way he says nightmares, especially, but anything like Right or Night or Might. Hehehe.

Did the watch have a date? Because isn't it exactly the same day/time that his mother died?

Yeah, I love how clearly that comes across in the pilot, the juxtaposition between Dean's sense of time, which runs according to his own schedule and whatever he's got going on, and then Sam's time, which conforms to normal people stuff like I have an interview on Monday. You can see Dean's face he's like, Monday? What day is this? Like it's such an alien thing for him to have to conform to someone else's schedule.

That fight scene is absolutely legend. Whenever I think of it, like idly when I'm on the train or something, I smile.

That is a terrible plotline, and I couldn't imagine the Winchester dynamic being the same in S1 without John's palpable (if often off screen) presence. I did recently have a revelation though, which is this. What if John had got up to check on Sam and had been killed instead? Mary might have gone back to hunting to catch the thing that killed her husband. And like Dean, Mary was raised a hunter, so she would have fallen back into the life with relative ease, the way Sam fell back in after Dean went to get him. I think no matter which parent died, those boys were destined to become hunters. And who knows, Mary might have been just as much of a tyrant as John. It would be an interesting AU universe to write, if you ask me.

That first exposition conversation when Sam says "we were raised like warriors" is really quite cringe worthy. Like you said, it was awkward. I also love wee!chester stuff, but I'm glad that convo didn't go on for much longer. Rather than them talking about it, I enjoy wee!chester revealed through the power of flashback. Those little kids are awesome!

Date: 2008-12-12 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I agree completely with you on the "we were raised like warriors" speech. Although I want the *information* from the longer version, I would much rather it be given to me through flashbacks, rather than horrible exposition conversations.

Oh yeah! I forgot to mention the accents. I think Jared's is adorable in the early episodes.

And of course! It would have been Nov. 2nd, because Dean shows up on the 31st, and Sam spends two days with him and then comes back on the Monday. I rechecked the opening scene, and I can't tell if Sam's nursery clock has two hands or one (I can't tell if one of the black lines is a shadow or a clock hand) so, it's either around 2:30am when the demon strikes (could be ten to three) or it's about 12 after 8...ok, wait...maybe that little grasshoper thing is the minute hand, in which case it is about 2:55am - which makes more sense seeing as how Mary is already in bed and John is passed out in front of the TV. I doubt they would be so sound asleep at 8pm.

So yeah, ok! Mystery solved. Dean's a clever guy. Wow...I wonder if Dean's made a note to check on same EVERY year on Nov. 2nd at 2:55am? Or if it was just a fluke this time around. In anycase, cool. I'm surprised I didn't pick up on that before, seeing as how I'm usually obsessed with timelines.

I think you are right about the Mary-John reversal universe. Probably the only difference would be that since Mary knows who she's dealing with, and knows that she was the one who gave it access to Sam, the quest to kill the YED would probably be less about vengeance and more about protecting Sam...though, I'm sure that she'd be pissed off that the YED had given her a deal so that John would live and then simply taken him away again ten years later. But yes, no matter who died, I think those boys would have become hunters either way.

To the time thing: Sam has this great line towards the end when he's telling Dean that he can't go with him to Colorado. He says this throw-away line that's something like "..I only have 13 hours..." and to me that really juxtaposes the brothers right there, because you get the sense that although Dean knew that Sam had something on "monday" he had no idea that "monday" was only 13 hours away at that point, yet Sam knew it exactly.

Date: 2008-12-12 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzykitty.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, I forgot that he showed up on Halloween. I remember the party now. I am pretty sure Jess and Mary's deaths were same date/time because someone mentions it later. I can't remember who says it, or when. I thought it was Dean, but it could have been one of the demons.

I wonder if Dean looked at his watch, realized the date and time, and had this kind of irrational compulsion to check on Sam. Only it turned out not to be irrational. Now I wonder if he knocked, didn't get an answer, and then decided something must be wrong so he busted his way in. Or if he just broke in from the get-go because he didn't want Sam to know he was checking up on him, so he was going to be creepy stalker/lurker about it.

Actually, I read Dean's reaction to the 13 hours line as being dismay at the reminder. I think he'd had so much fun hanging out with Sam again that he'd totally forgotten that Sam had to go back. Or maybe not forgotten, but had pushed it to the back of his mind. And now Sam's reminded him, it kinda shattered his bubble, and he was a little resentful, because he wants so much for Sam to stay but by saying that, Sam is making it clear how very much he *doesn't* want to stay, and that hurts.

Date: 2008-12-12 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Well, Dean kicked in the door, so I can only assume that he got to the porch and was about to knock when he heard Sam shout from inside.

Yeah, I agree with you about Dean's reaction to the 13 hour line, he was definitely a kicked puppy at the reminder...but I still think it's a good difference of characters/lives - where Sam knows the exact number of hours, and Dean probably just registers it as "soon". So, Sam's line had a duel purpose, both in pointing out the differences between the Winchester-Life and Normal-Life, and also pointing out to Dean that he is serious about making it back to the interview, that nothing has changed about what kind of life he wants to live.

Though, Sam does say that maybe he can meet up with Dean later, which I think somewhat points to the idea that Sam might have considered hunting on the side, if his Dad hadn't just told him to "stay gone." - but that's a whole other debate.

Date: 2008-12-13 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzykitty.livejournal.com
Well, as far as meeting up with Dean later is concerned, I think what Sam's trying to say is that although he doesn't want to get back into hunting, he also realizes it was wrong for him to cut his family out of his life like that. I think what he meant was that he still wants to see Dean, still wants to be his brother etc., just doesn't want to hunt.

Date: 2008-12-13 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yeah, thinking about it now, I realize that it's a "Listen, I'm not going to live your life, but I'd like to see you again" line. Basically, a "Your my brother and I've missed you" thing.

Date: 2008-12-13 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzykitty.livejournal.com
ROFL at your icon!

I wish he'd actually say that, that he missed his brother. Dean needs to hear stuff like that from time to time.

Date: 2008-12-13 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Hehe, glad you like the icon. I couldn't resist it when I stumbled upon it.

Agreed! Mind you, whenever Sam tries to, he lays it on to thick (and usually right before they might get killed) and Dean tells him to shut-up because he's being sappy.

Date: 2008-12-14 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzykitty.livejournal.com
Yeah, but I guess that's ok, because even though Dean stops him, Sam's said enough to get his point across. It's so sweet when they do that! heehee!

Date: 2014-01-26 02:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frozen_delight
I'm only just getting into Supernatural, but man, like with Sherlock, I really like your rewatches. The random things you point out that struck you while watching are just so interesting. So thank you for doing them!

Before I started watching Season 1, I only knew excerpts from the later seasons - you're right, they seem ridiculously young here. With Sam it's mostly the lack of muscle mass, with Dean the voice.


Date: 2014-01-26 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Glad you like the rewatches! You can watch as they slowly get longer and longer and longer...until they are ridiculous....much like the size of Sam!

They really are babies in these first seasons.


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