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We're back! Did you miss me? Or the show? Just me? Awww, you're the sweetest.

Okay, standard disclaimer: I'm not as think as you drunk I am. No quotes are meant to be accurate, events may be talked about out of order. I've only seen the episode once while drinking... blah blah blah.

Now, to the episode...

How did we begin? With Cas? With Metatron? I think we started with Metatron, because he was doing the talking to the camera thing - and it reminded me of S6's The Man Who Would Be King... and how Cas talked to the camera then, and I wondered "is this an angel thing?"... but then later Robbie Thompson brought it back around... ANYWAY...

Metatron is going on about what makes a good story...and it's all very meta... and he's using a typewriter! Man, I used to use a type-writer, back in the 80s and 90s. I still have one back home. I love that thing. I wonder if I can still get ribbons for it? Okay... I am way off topic already. I promise I will sober up as this review progresses.

I loved the splash card changing from Supernatural to "Metatron"! So great.

Then we join Cas, who tears his coat on a loose pipe or something. I'm going to be honest. I was super excited that we might see some of Castiel's magical tailoring skills.... kind of shows you where my priorities are. But nope, he just leaves his coat ripped and then goes in to-

WAIT! I'm forgetting the BEST PART!!!

Before we get to Castiel, we first join Dean in the shower! And it is glorious... more please, just...maybe a camera pan? What's a girl gotta do to get a nice full length camera pan? ..what's that? Watch HBO? Screw you, man. Jensen Ackles isn't on HBO... life is horribly cruel.

And Dean broods into the mirror... and then joins Sam out in the main room, where Sam's tracked down a few more of Abaddon's soul harvesting centres, with the help of some dude named Carlos. Is Carlos the new Bobby? Man, I'm worried about the hunter's organizational abilities with Garth retired.

Okay... back to Cas... Cas is actually being Columbo and investigating a pretty gruesome mass angel murder. He finds a survivor named Hannah, who tells him that it was Gadreel wanting them to work with Metatron or DIE! They chose die. Cas heals Hannah up, and she's like "be our leader, please!" And he's like "No, man, I super sucked at that job. Remember when I killed all my brethren? That was so not cool of me and now I am as'keered of myself with any sort of power."

Then Cas goes back to his motel room where he calls the Winchesters. And UGH, I have so many feelings about this - because Cas is essentially HUNTING, and he's calling the home-base, and he's got the stuff up on the walls... and when he asks "what's honourable about a little fridge filled with stuff in a motel room" and Dean says, "everything", Cas smiles and it's the shippiest smile that ever smiled.... because holy-crap, I don't even ship them...but, maybe I do? Because HOLY CRAP, Cas loves Dean so much. Seriously, this whole episode was so Destiel that it's ridonculous, and Cas and Dean barely had any interaction.

Okay, right, I promised to sober up... my apologies.

Anyway, Cas tells them that Gadreel's heading north through Utah, so they tell him to head to Augeneyes (that's what it sounded like to me) and they'd head to Ogdensburg, and they'd meet in the middle.

Only Cas gets distracted walking out the door, because the lights flicker... and dude, was he just going to leave his hunting stuff up on the wall? Because that's just asking for a police investigation.

Then the TV comes on and it's Casa Erotica...and GABRIEL?!?!!

I was surprised! I gotta admit, sometimes despite my no-spoilers policy, I get RIDICULOUSLY SPOILED, either through my own fault or the fault of others... but I was genuinely unspoiled for this appearance!!

But as soon as Gabriel showed up, I was super suspicious - because, man, I WANT him to be alive, you know? I want it to all have been some giant fake-out and he's been hiding... but I think Cas wants that too, because Gabriel was the ONLY archangel on their side. And just think of how huge that would be right now, to have an ARCHANGEL on their side? Even Metatron is "just a grunt" whatever he's doing to "supercharge" himself with the angel-tablet aside.

And the whole time Gabriel was there - and I have to hand it to Richard Speight Jr. here - he seemed to be ACTING the part of Gabriel. Like, it was Gabriel, but it was FORCED Gabriel... but it could go either way on the fake-Gabriel or real-Gabriel trying to play a part scale... but we'll get to that.

Basically, the next few scenes with Gabriel, it was hard to pay attention to the dialogue because I kept screaming. "OH MY GOD! FIND A WAY TO TEST IF IT'S REALLY GABRIEL!!!!" in my head at the screen....

So, let's jump back to Gadreel and the Winchesters....

Gadreel goes in and kills Sam and Dean's man in Ogdensburg, who works at a marijuana paraphernalia store on Main St, in Vancouver. Okay, not really.... but that IS Main St, in Vancouver, standing in for Ogdensburg. They were probably in Puff Uptown, which is on Main St, across from El Camino's and Hillcrest Plumbing (both of which you can see through the window.)

Gadreel recognizes the hunting symbols...and man, it occurs to me just how dangerous it was for Sam to have an angel in his head for as long as he did, because Gadreel has gotta know SO MUCH. And the whole time I was worried about Gabriel being a fake-Gabriel and Cas taking him to the bunker (and thus revealing where the bunker is to whoever Gabriel really was - Metatron, or whoever), and then with this simple scene, I realized that Metatron already knows where the bunker is - because Gadreel knows. Yikes. Is is still warded against them?! Or is that null and voice since Gadreel knows where the door is? He doesn't have a key, but still.

Anyway, dude at the puff shop is killed. Sam and Dean are annoyed...time to trap an angel. The background music got a little bit overwhelming here, which is probably my only criticism for this episode at this point. I'm a backgroud-music minimalist.

Okay, where was I? Uh... oh yeah, Sam ad Dean trap Gadreel, and Sam is PISSED, especially because Gadreel is like "I know all  your insecurities sucker!" And Sam is like "RAR RAGE MONSTER" and Dean is like "Cool it, bro... let's go have a talk."

Meanwhile, Castiel and Not!Gabriel? stop at a gas station... Cas has been trying to call Dean, but the call won't go through, which is weird... but anyway, they stop to get Gas, and they go into the convenience store and then Metatron's minions attack! And Gabriel tries to tell Cas to flee - to become the leader that Gabriel was supposedly planning to become, and Gabriel would once again sacrifice himself to the cause... and Cas ALMOST falls for it. (And seriously, do i have to reiterate how much Cas much have wanted Gabriel to be real - to actually have an angel who was, arguably, DESIGNED to lead...) ... but at the last moment, Cas realizes that his jacket is no longer torn.

Gabriel isn't real, none of it is... Cas probably never even left the motel room. Cas calls Not?Gabriel on it, and Not?Gabriel confesses...but before he snaps away the illusion, Cas asks him if he's alive - if at least that part may have been true... but Not?Gabriel doesn't answer, and we'll never know... (unless he shows up again)... part of me wants him to be alive, because I loved Gabriel, but another part of me thinks that his death was pretty epic and final, and I wouldn't want to undercut that... so, I'm torn. I like the fact that they kept it open here. I know some of you may disagree with me, but that's the way it is in my brain and I don't see that changing.

Back to Sam and Dean... Dean sends Sam to go find Cas, because he doesn't trust Sam to not turn into a rage monster around Gadreel.

Gadreel then makes the mistake of believing that the Winchester's are playing good cop/bad cop and Sam was playing the part of the bad cop.... no, Gadreel, you are with bad cop/even worse cop.... and you have just been left with even worse cop.

Meanwhile, Castiel wakes up tied to a chair in wherever Metatron is... heaven? I'm guessing it might be heaven. I wonder who his secretary is.

We find out that the "camera" that Metatron was talking to at the beginning of the episode was Castiel... and Metatron goes on to tell Cas that he, once again, being a spanner in the works. I love love love that this has become a character point for Castiel - I'm not sure if I mentioned that enough in my S8 rewatch. But I love the idea that Castiel may have been designed by god to ALWAYS be a spanner in the works. And I'd like to think that, because of that, he'll end up being Metatron's undoing... Castiel is some sort of really really weird fail-safe or something, I swear.

I feel bad, because I'm missing talking about so many good lines in this episode because I only watched it the once while drinking... so, I'm just going to say that there is TONS in this episode that I can't wait to talk about on rewatch in the fall.... and that in particular (because I already talked through that part), I liked Not?Gabriel telling Cas that he's been god more often than their Father has. It's once again, I feel, a line that directly ties Dean and Cas together, because I feel like Dean was more of a father to Sam than John was... of course, Dean was much much more successful at being a father than Cas was at being a God, seeing as how Cas turned out to be a wrathful insane God... which then ties Cas back to Sam...which in turn brings me to Sassy! Yay! Which is also something I loved seeing in this episode (platonically, of course.)

ANYWAY... Metatron, in a fit of being annoyed that, in the eons upon eons that Cas has been stationed with the garrison on earth, he never bothered to read a book besides the bible, Metatron "retcons" Cas - and I SO LOVE that line too...and man, Robbie Thompson writes a fine script, IMHO....but I digress... Metatron "uploads" everything HE'S ever read into Cas' brain so that he can understand Metatron's references. Little does Metatron realize that Castiel's problem with understanding references isn't a problem with not knowing the source material, it's a probably with not being able to see how any of it can be used as parable.

The point, though, is that, much like Moriarty in Sherlock, Metatron has decides that what a good story needs is a villain.... but, unlike Moriarty who was much more self-aware, Metatron has decided that CAS is going to be the villain. That Cas is going to lead the rebel angels against Metatron, and then Metatron's going to play the hero and CRUSH THEM!... but, Metatron? Dude? Whose hero are you going to be? Gadreel's? A hero is only a hero is people agree he is one, and last time I checked, you officially got everyone to hate you.

While we think about that though, and because I'm getting ahead of myself in the narrative, let's head back to Gadreel - who is in an angel trap. Seriously, where did this knowledge come from? They've got him cuffed with the cuffs they used on Crowley, looks like, but he's also in some sort of symbol...VERY INTERESTING. How did they move him there out of the holy fire? Did Sam and or Dean, hop into the holy fire and cuff him real quick?

Dean's talking to him...of Gadreel's talking to Dean...goading him. Telling him all the stuff that Sam supposedly things, in order to make Dean REALLY REALLY ANGRY...he's TRYING to get Dean to kill him. And, yes, I know 99% of people don't want to see Gadreel redeemed and want him to be killed because of Kevin, and...you know...Abner...and well, ALL THIS MURDERING... but damn it, I STILL want him to be redeemed. Maybe Tahmoh is my kryptonite? I don't know...  Dean points out though that what Gadreel REALLY fears is being chained up again for all eternity. I guess I just kind of feel bad for the guy, because he's been tortured and locked away since Adam and Eve and...yeah... he's basically Aziraphale.... and, I really really think that he was sincere when he first met Dean, and that he just wanted to help... but, whatever...

Anyhoo, Dean goes off to the bathroom to stair at himself broodly in the mirror for a bit. Meanwhile, Sam meets up with Metatron at Cas' motel, and Metatron tells him that they'll do a trade and that he'll kill Cas otherwise.

Sam calls Dean, but Dean has already gone a bit weird with the Mark of Cain and left his phone in the bathroom...

Oh! Let's return to Metatron's talk with Cas in heaven, because I totally forgot to talk about the fact that the stolen grace is burning out! Or possibly BURNING CAS OUT!?!?! What's going to happen to him?!?! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....................

Now, Sam drives back to the factory where they have Gadreel to find Dean and Gadreel passed out in a corner with Gadreel beaten bloody, but not dead... and Dean seems weirdly drunk. The important part here though, is the fact that Dean admits that he wanted to kill him, but was able to resist, because Dean knew they needed him to talk... man, Dean is very concerning.

Sam argues for the trade (not like they have much choice), because he figures they'll be able to trap Metatron... alas, Metatron totally knows they're going to and basically just makes fun of them for it. He BLOWS OUT the holy fire. Geeez... what the hell? But he does return Cas and take Gadreel, like he said he would.

Then Cas, Dean, and Sam, seem to stand around in a parking lot and watch the sun set in silence...

...while we cut to heaven and Gadreel tells Metatron that the door to heaven is closed again. He then asks Metatron if him getting captured and tortured was part of his story, and Metatron says it was a surprise, but that's the great thing about stories - you make your characters interesting and see where they take you, but you always know the end when they don't. Gadreel gives Metatron a LONG LOOK...and again, I really really want that look to mean that Gadreel is getting tired of your shit, Metatron, and is about to <i>surprise</i> you further.

Back to Sam, Dean, and Cas, in the parking lot...now that the sun has set, they speak again, wondering what to do. Dean and Sam take off to go resume the Abaddon hunt, Cas stays behind... but not before realizing that there's something up with Dean. He grabs his arm, rolls up his sleeve, and says "What did you do?!" and....firstly, Dean must keep his cuffs unbuttoned, because there is no way you'd be able to do that with any of my shirts. Secondly, you know, MAYBE Cas would be a good person to ask about what the "burden" is that comes with the Mark.... but no, Dean just gets mad and gets in the car to drive away.

Cas tells Sam to look out for Dean.... and Sam says, "yeah, he's creeping me out too," with his EYES.

Then Sam and Dean drive down a lonely road, with Sam side-eyeing Dean, because of him being super super concerning.

Meanwhile, Cas does what Metatron wanted him to do and calls angels to him, and presumably becomes the leader that they're hoping for.... is he playing into Metatron's plan? Is he taking Metatron's offer of endless available grace? Or is Cas playing the double-cross? Or is he playing his own game?!


Conclusion: Awesome episode and WAY too much to talk about. As usual, let me know in comments what you thought and what you desperately need to talk about....

Date: 2014-04-16 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raloria.livejournal.com
Gadreel goes in and kills Sam and Dean's man in Ogdensburg, who works at a marijuana paraphernalia store on Main St, in Vancouver. Okay, not really.... but that IS Main St, in Vancouver, standing in for Ogdensburg. They were probably in Puff Uptown, which is on Main St, across from El Camino's and Hillcrest Plumbing (both of which you can see through the window.)

Dude. This is great info. for my Locations List. Thank you! :)

And I love how they replaced one continuity error with another: the day quickly turning to night in that one commercial break near the end. WTH? What did Cas and the boys do after Metatron left? Play strip poker by the Impala?

Oh, and I totally got that Destiel vibe in this ep with that smile from Cas when he heard Dean's voice on the phone. He was all "Hey, boyfriend!" LOL And yeah, I don't ship them either, but there was no mistaking that!

Ah, Gabriel...miss him so much. Sad that he wasn't really alive, but I sure enjoyed his scenes while we had him. :D
Edited Date: 2014-04-16 10:18 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-04-16 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Dude. This is great info. for my Locations List. Thank you! :)

No worries! Thankfully my friend recognised the shops you could see through the window and paused the show to point them out, otherwise I wouldn't have known where to look on the map. ;)

And I love how they replaced one continuity error with another: the day quickly turning to night in that one commercial break near the end. WTH? What did Cas and the boys do after Metatron left? Play strip poker by the Impala?

Haha, exactly! They just stood there in silence and watched the sun set completely. :P

Oh, and I totally got that Destiel vibe in this ep with that smile from Cas when he heard Dean's voice on the phone. He was all "Hey, boyfriend!" LOL And yeah, I don't ship them either, but there was no mistaking that!

It was too adorable to ignore!!

And yes, it was great seeing Gabriel again. What a nice treat. :)

Date: 2014-04-16 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missyjack.livejournal.com
I remember the bong shop! See my time in Vancouver has been well spent!

I think Cas is taking on the leadership role because someone has to. And i dont think its hubris on his part. But at least he knows metatrons plan - oh villians and their evil monologuing! But i worryt hat with that grace burning him up, maybe he sees it as a suicide mission?

Date: 2014-04-16 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Hahaha... if it hadn't been for my friend pausing the show there and pointing out the store-signs across the street, and how she knew they hadn't been changed, I wouldn't have known where they were... I'm such a square. ;)

I agree with you about Cas. And I'm also worried about whether or not ANYTHING Cas does right now will turn into a suicide mission because of that stolen grace.

Date: 2014-04-16 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borgmama1of5.livejournal.com
Gadreel gives Metatron a LONG LOOK.

I also wondered at that look--is Gadreel thinking of double-crossing Metatron? I REALLY hope so, not so much for Gadreel's redemption as for Metatron's comeuppance! Grrr, he's even more full of himself than Crowley, and I didn't think that was possible!

Jensen Ackles certainly nails the emotional man-pain expression, doesn't he?

Date: 2014-04-16 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I slept on it, and I realized that Gadreel is probably DEFINITELY planning to double-cross Metatron. Because I remember the last episode we saw him in - when they were trying to get him out of Sam, and he was talking to Cas - he TOLD Cas that he was going to bring all the angels back to heaven and become a hero, and thus redeem himself for the whole snake-in-the-garden thing...and that, basically, murdering for Metatron now just boils down to eggs that need to be broken in order to make that omelette.

Or, at least, that's how *I* interpreted what he said... so, yeah, I think that Gadreel IS planning a double-cross at some point - whether he's smart enough to pull it off is another question altogether - also, whether that double-cross actually DOES justify all those murders... it's getting to the point where I'm not sure Gadreel can come back from all these murders, and I'm sad about that. I mean, we've forgiven Cas for things that were just as bad, but a lot of those, Cas could blame on insanity. (Though, not Balthazar's death... which, is a pretty big thing for us to have forgiven him for, if you really think about it.) Though, yes, I realize that I might be the only one that WANTS Gadreel to be redeemed somehow... I'm just thinking aloud at you here. Sorry.

Date: 2014-04-16 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com
Great review! And yes, Cas's little smile killed me dead and almost made me ship these two.

Date: 2014-04-16 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Thanks! And yeah, that smile was the sweetest thing I think we've ever seen Cas do.

Date: 2014-04-16 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursdaysisters.livejournal.com
I'm very curious about Cas's grace, when he took off his jacket at the end I was scared he was ditching the trench for good and would scoop his grace out to become human and thus shuck his leadership responsibility (also reeeeeally hoping we get JDM as God in the very end of the show...)

Date: 2014-04-16 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Oh man, that thought never crossed my mind...

But yeah, I'm super curious about Cas' grace too. What's it doing to him? Is it just burning out or is it killing him too? And does leading the angels mean that Cas accepted Metatron's offer of a neverending grace-supply so that whatever the problem is, it's not a problem anymore?

JDM as God would be interesting.

Date: 2014-04-16 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursdaysisters.livejournal.com
I think Cas has a good memory, and that with enough free will Apocalypses can be rewritten no matter what the original creator had intended.

Date: 2014-04-16 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yes, I think so too. :)

Date: 2014-04-16 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowsong26.livejournal.com
This episode omg. Because GABRIEL and Gadreel and GABRIEL. Seriously, despite the fake-out, him being back still made me ridiculously happy. Like, I was thinking I'd have to settle for time travel shenanigans and/or flashbacks but nope present-day interactions, even if they were a manipulation.


You're right, that Gabriel (MetaGabriel? Because Metatron's Gabriel? IDK) was off the entire time. But I almost bought it, because who knows what either witnessing-but-being-unable/unwilling-to-interfere or totally-missing-and-coming-back-to-learn the events of, in particular, s6 did to his head. But there was a line where he says something like "You and I are different, all the other angels are sheep," and while maybe he would think that, it struck me as weird phrasing. Knowing this was all Metatron TOYING WITH MY EMOTIONS makes sense, because it was a very Metatron phrasing.

Also the whole hiding-in-Heaven thing was hard to buy. Like, unless Raphael locked him up somewhere so he'd stop attempting to derail Apocalypse Redux (because SRSLY RAPH I GOT STABBED OVER THIS CAN WE NOT), and everyone in Raphael's camp sort of died so no one knew/remembered that Gabriel was alive and locked up in Heaven until, like Gadreel, Metatron's spell cut him loose. Or something.

Weirdly enough, a while ago, I was talking to my roommate about how if Gabriel came back, he and Cas together would probably be the best end-game leadership for Heaven. Because they have power and legend on their side, and they balance each other out, personality-wise...so seeing them working together even if it was MetaGabriel and not actual Gabriel made me happy.

And then he did the eyebrow thing and...see, most of the Gabriel scenes I spent making noises I'm pretty sure are only audible to dogs and certain species of bats because he's my favorite and even if he was MetaGabriel and even if he's gone again there was still more Gabriel in my life and I can't wait 'til I can watch the episode again.

You have a point about Metatron and heroism and self-awareness. I think the reason Metatron bugs me (apart from...y'know...the terrible things he does, but he's a villain so) is that he's kinda a combination of the worst parts of Zachariah and Naomi, only without Naomi's bedrock of Principle (at least I think she had one, even if she went way, way off base) or Zachariah's...charm is so not the right word, but I enjoyed having him on my screen? (except for that one squicky scene in Dark Side of the Moon) and I really don't enjoy Metatron being on my screen.

Also, I'm pretty sure no one following Metatron actually likes him. Like, I can buy people following Raphael or Naomi or even Michael and liking them, not just fearing/needing them. But not Metatron. Even Gadreel, who is being offered basically everything he could ever possibly want seems to find Metatron slimy. Like that serious side-eye you pointed out.

And speaking of Gadreel, I definitely want to see him redeemed. Because I think he can be, despite everything. And I am a sucker for stories like his. But I'm not sure I agree with you on his sincerity when he met Dean? I mean, I don't think he was planning to be manipulative/take hostages/whatever, but I think it was more...he knows who the Winchesters are, because even in prison you probably get Angel Radio. And Dean basically says "you help me, I'll give you a blank check in return," and Gadreel knows that with his history, he's going to need serious protection, which Dean can offer. I think he was planning to do whatever Dean asked, then tell him the truth and be all, 'I screwed up a long time ago, can you help me stay safe? I'll keep helping you as much as I can in exchange, I promise. I can be useful.'

But then Dean demanded a name. Gadreel couldn't risk telling the truth until he knew he could depend on the return favor, and then he just kept digging himself deeper. Then Metatron offered redemption, when he knew there was no chance Dean would knowingly aid him, even if he did come clean.

When I watched it before, I thought that Cas was playing with that sigil to try and figure out if it was the Heaven-door, since he can't trust what MetaGabriel said about it, but now I'm not so sure. IDEK what's going on there.

Date: 2014-04-17 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I agree with you about Gabriel - it was awesome having him back, even if he was not really Gabriel. I also agree with you and your roommate about how Gabriel and Cas WOULD be the best leadership for Heaven, because they have both tradition (Gabriel) and reform (Cas).

I sort of feel about Metatron the same way I feel about Zach. Unlike you, I didn't enjoy seeing Zach on my screen - but it was for the right reasons. The actors were both really really good at making me hate them and everything that came out of their mouths... they're both really good at being slimy.

I agree though, that I don't think anyone could possibly LIKE Metatron - and I honestly don't know what he's trying to go for here. Because, like I said, he casts himself in the role of the hero - but a hero for who? He's made enemies of EVERYONE. The only way angels can get back into heaven is seemingly to grovel at his feet and do everything he commands of them - and that's not building him up to be a hero, it's building him up to be a tyrant that everyone resents.

I disagree with you about Gadreel though... but I disagree while also agreeing. Because yeah, I think Gadreel totally hoped that he could get the Winchester's protection, and he told us himself that he chose the name Ezekiel because he know Ezekiel was a)dead and b)a "good" angel. Ezekiel was everything that Gadreel wanted to be, so he assumed the identity.

But, all that, for me, doesn't undercut the sincerity that Gadreel had for wanting to help Sam. YES, it could be a benefit to him also, and YES, it was part of him rebuilding his life... but it can be those things and still be a sincere gesture of love and charity. Gadreel wanted to be good, so he became Ezekiel... Gadreel WANTED to be the type of person that helped those who deserved it. So, he helped those that deserved it - I think he just saw it as a good omen that the first people he heard asking for help were people who might be able to help him in return.

So, what I'm saying is that I agree with you - but that you and I have different definitions of what being sincere means. To me, you can still sincerely want to help, while at the same time lying about who you are and possibly hoping to receive help in return. ;P

Date: 2014-04-17 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowsong26.livejournal.com
The other way Gabriel and Cas balance each other out I think is in level of commitment and/or follow-through. Because Gabriel likes to make grand gestures and disappears and Cas doesn't back down until he absolutely has to (though he has gotten better).

I think the reason I can tolerate/enjoy Zach where I can't with Metatron is that Zach genuinely makes me laugh from time to time, and Metatron tries to have that same kind of humor but always screws it up.

I think I didn't explain myself well (possibly because I ran out of space)--once Gadreel saw what the favor Dean was asking for actually was, I think he would have been wholly on-board regardless of the benefit to him in exchange, so I agree that he did sincerely want to help Sam. But, unless I'm remembering wrong and Dean went into a lot more detail in his open prayer, I think his initial motivation in seeking out Dean was less "I want to help this person because Right Thing to Do" and more "This person can defend me and probably won't ask me to do anything awful let's go."

And you do have a point about his choosing the name Ezekiel/wanting to be Ezekiel, and if he'd heard another similarly desperate prayer he would have gone to them, too.

Date: 2014-04-17 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Completely agree about Gabriel and Cas.

I think my other problem with Zach was that he kind of reminds me of my dad - which doesn't work in his favour. :P

See, maybe *I'm* remembering wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Gadreel told Dean that the reason he answered Dean's prayer was because it came from his heart, or was infused with love, or something to that effect... so, yeah, I interpreted that as "I came because someone was speaking to me from their heart, asking for help" and less of "I came because I heard the name Winchester and thought I could get protection."

But, again, I've only watched these episodes twice - and one of those times was only to timeline, so unless the dialogue said, "I answered your prayer because it's Thursday morning at 9am, and I always answer prayers at that time," I probably wasn't paying that much attention. :P

Date: 2014-04-17 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pushistyj-koshk.livejournal.com
A good solid episode IMO. I wish all episodes could be like that - the filler episodes (which we had A LOT OF this season) really annoy me.

I don't want the season to be over :( Whatever will I do during summer?..

I too am old enough to have used a typewriter! I learned to type on a mechanical (!) one - god, it really hurt my fingers! :)

Date: 2014-04-17 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
It only hurt my fingers when I missed the keys, and then got my little fingers stuck between keys - scraping them as I pulled them back out. :P

I just have to wait until June, then Teen Wolf starts up again and I'll once more have a show to obsess over.... Also, I could catch up with other shows! The possibilities are endless!!

I've been rewatching the early seasons with Mark Oshiro over at Mark Watches, and I've come to the conclusion that Kripke was by and large MUCH better at tying in MOTW episodes into the larger mytharc, no, not just tying in, but also advancing the plot of the larger mytharc at a relatively consistent pace throughout the season... I find since he left, that we get these bursts of plot advancement followed by lulls of perfectly skippable episodes (if all you care about is the larger mytharc.) And thus ends my criticism of the day!

Date: 2014-04-17 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etoile444.livejournal.com
I still have more to write about the episode, but if you need summer shows, watch Under the Dome. It was really good. I got into it because Colin Ford was in it. Its back June 30.

Date: 2014-04-17 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Oh hey, I forgot about that show. Nice to know it's coming back.

I'll add it to the list, but I still have a ton of shows from last summer that I never got to. :P I basically watch one or two shows a week only... so it takes me forever to watch anything.

Date: 2014-04-18 06:25 pm (UTC)
ext_3548: (Angel)
From: [identity profile] shayheyred.livejournal.com
Excellent episode, excellent review, drunk or not.

Date: 2014-04-18 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Thank you kindly. ;)

Date: 2014-04-21 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cappy712.livejournal.com
Thank you for sharing your review.

How do you feel about the "download" that Metatron gave to Castiel and what that kind of information is going to do for Castiel? The fact that he understood a reference was cute but seriously - with all the knowledge - from books, tv and movies that Metatron gave to him I can only see it as a way of helping him. But then again???

Date: 2014-04-21 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I think the writers were actually quite clever with the way they did that - because they gave him the knowledge, yes, but then they also showed us that Castiel (currently) lacks the critical skill of being able to see similarities between what is happening, and what happens in stories. Sam questioned sneaking into the deathstar and killing the emperor, and Castiel knew that Sam was referencing Star Wars, but couldn't figure out that he was making a comparison between deathstar=heaven and emperor=Metatron.

Unless Castiel learns how to use those stories as parables, fables, or allegories (or whatever the heck the word is), then no, I don't think that the knowledge will necessarily help him.

That being said, if he DOES learn that skill, then yes, it may help him, because he'll be better able to understand possible consequences for his actions, as well as better understand other people's motivations. They've actually done studies that show that people who read are more empathetic.

So, I guess only time will tell! It was definitely a really interesting choice to make, writing-wise, because I know the writers often use "Castiel doesn't know human culture" as a comedy-crutch... with that (partially) taken away, they may finally be moving away from that gag and allowing Castiel to become a little more "human" now that he can participate in and (partially) understand the culture.


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