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Okay, so this episode is a bit problematic for some, so we'll see how I manage the minefield...

Originally, when I first saw this episode, I thought it was rather hilarious. I thought the premise was a bit stupid, but that was about my only complaint. The friend I usually watch Supernatural with, though, was rather livid with what they had done with Becky. I originally defended the show saying that everyone gets insecure and it actually made Becky a bit more of a realistic character than she had been before and blah blah blah - I kind of forget my reasoning now and I'm too lazy to go look it up.

I've been thinking about it though, and I think my friend's reaction might have actually been the right one. Becky worked as an inside-joke about the fans before, because she was confident, crazy, but, most importantly, completely unashamed. She might have been alone, and Sam might have had no interest in her, but she still snagged Chuck with no difficulty and then let Sam down easy as though he SHOULD feel bad that he couldn't have her anymore. In this episode, she suddenly becomes the stereotypical insecure pathetic nerd.

Then there's the whole drugging Sam and tying him to a bed without pants on... which you know, is just not something you do to a rape victim. Also, drugging someone who already has mental-issues is REALLY not a good idea. Basically, what I'm saying is that Becky problems aside, this episode should not have been possible plot- and character-wise this season. Sam should have A)flipped out about the change of reality, or B)flipped completely out after waking up tied to a bed and stripped. Basically, this episode drives the final nail into the coffin of Sam's serious storyline, because it's a huge neon sign that says: yeah, there are no repurcussions of the cage, because Sam's magically fine with all this.

Basically, what I'm saying is that if you go back and read my Quick Reaction, and then read this rewatch, you'll probably think that they were written by two different people... and in a way, they were. You can't step in the same river twice.

Anyway, now that I've addressed the numerous problems in this episode, let's start the actual rewatch... I probably won't be addressing those problems again, so this may in fact be a very short one... let's hope, anyway, I have to have a shower at some point today and go out for dinner.

- I have to say, I still love Sam's "you okay, lady?" back from S5.

Waitress: "...I'm in grad school. See! Okay, there's a look, stop!"
Dean: "No, this is my 'I dig smart-chicks' look. No, if they wore that, I wouldn't have dropped out of school."

- So, here we get A)a reminder that Dean is awesome and really does dig smart-chicks, and B)another confirmation that Dean really did drop out of high school.

Waitress: "So? What's your deal?"
Dean: "My deal?"
Waitress: "Yeah, you came in here looking like somebody shot your puppy."

- They did.

Dean: "Well, things are looking up now that your shifts over... alright, ah, here's the deal. I have this friend, he's got this younger brother. Canon's a little loose, his reactor blew a while back, it's not good. My friend, he's a kind of been sitting waiting to see if he goes guano again."
Waitress: "And I'm assuming the shit's hit the fan."
Dean: "That's just the thing, it didn't. Kids all reasonable now, considering he's crazy...well, he's not crazy..."

- We'll get into this later, but Dean needs Sam to need him - to take all his focus - because otherwise Dean has to think about all the problems that he can't fix. Sam, he knows how to care for, because he's been doing it his whole life - even if he's non-fixable crazy...but Cas being dead is another matter altogether.
- I also really like how Dean corrects himself when he says "crazy."

Dean: "...it's starting to seem like things might getting a little better."
Waitress: "Well, that's a good thing right."
Dean: "It's a miracle! Except when it happens during their uh, sacred annual pilgrimage to Vegas, and he goes off on some granola munching hike in the dessert by himself."

- Ah the Vegas trip that seems to occur at the same time every year...only not S4, and probably not S5, not the year Sam was in the cage, and I doubt Soulless!Sam wanted to stop hunting to go to Vegas...it's a definite possibility for S3, but it doesn't fit into the timeline in S2 (and I doubt they'd feel like partying it up in Vegas with their dad freshly dead...and not S1, because they either weren't together or it Jess was freshly dead.) So, really, how sacred IS this annual pilgrimage? Um, yeah, there's a reason that I never put it in the timeline. :P

Waitress: "Well, maybe he just needs some time alone. We all have to face ourselves sometime."
Dean: "Yeah, maybe he does."
Waitress: "Wasn't talking about him."

- I think you are overstepping your bounds, strange waitress... unless you are a psych grad, I suppose.

Sam: "I'm in love and I'm getting married."
*Dean stares at him*
Sam: "Say something, like congratulations for example."
Dean: "What?"

- I love that reaction.

I love the wedding cake title card.

Dean: "Shouldn't she have asked for my permission or something?"
Sam: "You wanted her to ask for my hand?"

- I love this. Mainly just because it says so much about how Dean thinks of Sam.

Dean: "Okay, ignoring everything, have you forgot the average lifespan of your hook-ups?"
- I also get a kick out of the fact that it's now canon that Sam has a deathcock.

I love the long pause with Dean standing still...and then..."REALLY!?"

Dean: "Speaking of the whole book-thing - Becky randomly shows up during Vegas week?"
Sam: "Yeah!"

- See, the only way that Vegas week could fit into other seasons is if it were flexible...but Dean implies here that it isn't.

Dean: "Maybe uh...uh...uh, CHUCK wrote about it?!"
- I guess it's been nearly 2.5 years, but it's kind of funny how Sam and Dean never clued into the fact that Chuck is missing...and they seem to even forget his name. Wow, with friends like these... (just joking, I know Dean and Sam weren't exactly friends with Chuck.)

Dean: "Bobby, I know you're deep in that Oregon nest. I'm heading to Delaware to do a little snooping around. Sam is there with his wife. That's right, his wife. Call me."
- I'd have loved to have seen Bobby's face when he got that message.

I do like Emily Perkins, I should say. Even if this episode did undermine the character, I thought she played what she was given very well. Actually, she just had a baby recently... I guess, um, either just before or just after she filmed this, seeing as how she's not preggos in this episode.

It's also kind of hilarious how huge Sam is compared to her.

Becky: "Guy, meet my husband, Sam"
Guy: "It's an honour to meet you, Sam."

- I love how you can practically see the "Oh shit. shit shit shit. Play it cool..." going on in Guy's head.

Becky: "Guy's a really good friend, we met in the erotic fiction section at the novel hovel"
Guy: "Oh my god, Becky, TMI, man's just met me."

- Well, at least Becky is still partially unashamed. :)

I also like the actor who plays Guy. He's good looking.

I love how the romantic dinner is a store-bought roasted chicken...still in the plastic.

Sam: "Becky? Wha- wha- what am I doing here?"
- Jared does actually put a lot of panic/confusion into that...which is probably his attempt at grounding this episode in some sort of character-reality.

I actually completely forgot about the side-plot thingy with this murdering dude.

Dean: "Me being supportive. Congratulations to you and the missus."
Sam: "Thanks"
Dean: "It's a waffle iron. Non stick. You just uh..." *makes hand motions* "...I actually don't know how to use it. Are we good?"

- I do love how Dean plays the part - complete with traditional waffle-iron wedding gift.

I do love how Becky is working the case - all LARPing like.

Dean: "Guy wins the lotto, guy hits the bigs - I mean, obviously people's dreams are coming true in this town..."
- Dean's put it together.

Sam: "...maybe that's what's bugging you, that I moved on with my life. I mean, you took care of me and that's great, but I don't need you anymore."
- Ouch. Also, the entire storyline of S1-S5.

When he goes to wipe the red off her nose - his hand is SO BIG. Man...Jared, you give me such a size-kink.

And I love the journal thing, with Sam hugging it close and looking adorable.

Holy crap - one of the extras in the Alpine Club is wearing one of Sam's shirts. WHY AREN'T I A MALE EXTRA!?! I want to wear one of Sam's shirts!! (Actually, i haven't signed up to do extra work this year...so, yeah... I mean, I still could at any point, but I just haven't felt like it.)

Oh Garth... I know some people don't like you, but I do.

Garth: "He told me two things. One, he's tangling with a major league nest up in Oregon territory, numero dos, he said you'd be all surly and pre-menstrual working with me. But hey man, sticks and stones."
- Again, I love how people who aren't Sam and Dean describe Sam and Dean...so "surly and pre-menstral" from Bobby is pretty entertaining to me.

Garth: "Hey, is that your-"
Dean: "Yes"
Garth: "Awkward."

- I like how Garth has never met Sam and Dean, and yet he somehow is able to recognize Sam as Dean's brother. Maybe Bobby described him too "big guy, needs a haircut."

Sam: "What's with scrawny guy?"
Dean: "Temp."

- Heheh, even the Hunting world has temps.

Dean hasn't worn a sweater-vest since...I do wonder why he went with the wool suit this time.

Dean: "'kay, you know what? I'm trying to save you from a really bad accident."
Woman: "Are you threatening me?"
Dean: "No, I'm pointing out a pattern, why do people think I'm threatening them?'
Garth: "Because it sounded exactly like a threat, dude."

- Hehehe. I like how Garth screws up the interview, but Dean screws this exchange up.

Garth: "...except those are ten year contracts. Why is the bill coming due so fast?"
Dean: "I don't know, but I have a bad feeling about whose next. I gotta find Sam, pronto."
Garth: "Alright, here's the plan. I drop this lady at my cousins; he'll stop anything trying to get her. We, uh, find Sam, hopefully fix this. Everyone's home in time for America's Got Talent. Now you, you'll be living with a tri-racial parapalegic sniper until this all blows over, okay?"

- This is the thing that I like about Garth - he comes across as incompetant, but he actually isn't.

Sam: "Becky, what's happening?"
Becky: "Don't you remember, Sam? We're married."
Sam: "Ugh, god, I'm calling, Dean."

- I also love how Sam's reaction to "reality is not making sense" is "must call Dean." Now, wouldn't it have been cool if this episode used an OC instead of Becky, so they didn't know the history, but just liked the look of Sam and had no morals...and then when the potion wore off, she had to deal with post-wall Sam freakin' the fuck out? That would have been a much better episode, though, not played for laughs, obviously...so, yeah.

Sam does panic a good bit when he wakes up - which again, I'm going to credit to Jared.

Becky: "..this isn't the honeymoon I had in mind, well, some of it is, but not in this context."
- Haha.

Becky: "Do you know, we haven't even consummated our marriage...."
- The standard 'I know this looks really bad, but no rape has actually occurred' line.

Sam: "You're not this stupid, Becky."
- My point exactly.

Becky: "And, he said it wouldn't even work if you didn't already love me deep down, it just activates it."
- Of course, this lie sort of does show how Becky didn't realize she was completely roofie-ing Sam.

I do love the 'fuck you!' with the gag in his mouth...though, I cringe at the safety issues of gagging someone whose hands are tied and then leaving them unattended.

Garth: "Last post: 'going on romantic trip with hubster.' Three exclamation points. Guess she got excited."
- I love this line so much, you don't even know. It's that old dead-pan humour from like... Dragnet.

Dean: "That look romantic to you?"
Garth: "Oh hell no, but I got this thing about fish - dead eyes, man."

- I do like Garth.

Becky: "Honestly, the only place people understood me was the message boards. They were grumpy and overly literal, but at least we had a common passion."
- Best description of Supernatural fans ever. Haha.

Becky: "...but then you left and Chuck dumped me. I think I intimidated him with my vibrant sexuality."
- And this is the other thing. It was so much cooler to think of Becky as the one who dumped Chuck.

I love the burning devils trap in the carpet...brilliant.

At least Becky saves the day!

Crowley: "Only one rule, make a deal, keep it."
Crowley: "This isn't Wall Street, this is Hell, we have a little thing called integrity!"

- It's weird that Crowley actually does have more integrity than some humans... no morals, but integrity.

I do also love that the crossroads demon is more scared of Crowley than he is of the Winchesters.

Crowley: "Years of demons nipping at your heels, you haven't seen one for months, wonder why?"
Dean: "We've been a little busy"
Crowley: "Hunting leviathan, yes, I know. That's why I told my lads to stay clear of you meat-heads."

- It's an interesting dynamic that Crowley is trying to help them. You'd think he'd yell at them for taking smaller hunts instead of going after the leviathan more though.

Crowley: "You met that Dick yet? Smuggest tub of goo since Mussolini. I hate the bastards. Squash them all, please. I'll stay clear."
- I also like how at this point, the Winchesters haven't met Dick and don't know what Crowley is talking about.

Annulment. Nice. I'm not even sure how paperwork could go through on a dead man's name. :P

Becky: "It wasn't all bad, right?"
Sam: "Okay, you did save my life, and for that, thanks."
Becky: "So, I'll see you again?"
Sam: "Yeah, probably not."

- A little reminiscent of Sam's "No, we have guns and we can find you" line from Real Ghostbusters - but not as good.

Sam: "Look, Becky, you're not a loser, you're a good person and you've got a lot of...energy. So, just do your thing, whatever it is, and the right guy will find you."
- And Sam, always trying to be the nice guy. :P

Dean: "Well, buddy, I gotta say, man, you uh, you don't suck."
Garth: "Thank you, that's the nicest thing everyone's ever said to me. Well.."
*hugs him*

- HUGS! This is the thing with Garth, he's a well-adjusted Hunter, really. He doesn't seem to have a tragic backstory.

Sam: "Aw, you made a fwend."
Dean: "No, uh uh."

- Hehehe.

Dean: "You know, I gotta say, for a whack-job, you really pulled it together."
Sam: "That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me."
*both laugh*

- I love when they joke and laugh. :)

Sam: "Look, don't be too impressed man. It's still a denver scramble up here, I just know my way around the plate now."

Sam: "You know what though, seriously, might be nice..."
Dean: "What?"
Sam: "Well you've basically been looking out for me your whole life, now you finally get to take care of yourself. About time, huh?"
Dean: "Yeah, right."

- And there we go, we've circled right back to the beginning of the episode, with Dean losing the ability to focus all his energy on Sam, and thus ignore the problems that he doesn't want to face or work through...mainly, Cas' betrayal and Cas' death.

Yeah, in the end, I didn't say much about this episode, did I? Ah well...more time to read fanfiction, I guess. ;)

Just a note on clothes: It's been 8 episodes and Sam has 5 new shirts already. Dean has 1, and he didn't even give me a good look at it.

Date: 2012-10-08 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mekina.livejournal.com
This episode is mostly 'meh' for me. Two things I like about it:

It's creeptastic, but under the influence of the love potion thing, Sam is all doting and loomy and just generally cute.

Dean being awkwardly supportive with the waffle iron is utterly adorable.

But any good points are erased because that damn scene where Becky ties Sam to the bed...it makes my skin crawl. Most people don't seem to have a problem with it, but it's just so freaking creepy. Venturing too close to almost-rape for me. Ugh!

Date: 2012-10-08 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yup, those are basically my feelings about it too...plus all the other ones. :P

Sam IS pretty damn adorable under the influence of a love potion though.

Date: 2012-10-08 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etoile444.livejournal.com
This episode has so many problems. However, as you said, the number one issue is that Sam is dealing with major hell cage PTSD and he would have flipped out many times in the course of the shit Becky was doing.

I decided months ago I would NEVER, lower myself to watching this utter filth (flip it around and tie a woman to a bed without her consent and say it's okay) that is so hideously wrong and wrong to Sam's trauma storyline.

God love you for soldiering on with this!

Date: 2012-10-08 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Haha, yeah, gotta catalogue the clothes after all - otherwise I may have skipped it. :P

But yes, if you did a gender-flip on this, there would be absolutely no way that it would pass. Yet another example of how society doesn't take male rape seriously.

This episode would have actually been a lot better if they had gone the dark route, had an OC instead of Becky, no Garth (because no-comedy), and just actually had all the shit that should have happened happen.

Date: 2012-10-09 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] percysowner.livejournal.com
I pretty much agree. They could have had Garth as comedy if the writer had been stronger. Mystery Spot is hilarious and one of the darkest episodes out there, so with someone more talented, they could have done both. However, by this time it is obvious that no one knows how to handle Sam being mentally ill, so they just ignore it except for people saying he is mentally ill and then Sam acts normal. Biggest letdown and problem with season seven, especially because they manage to have Castiel be mentally unstable and still be part of the storyline.

Date: 2012-10-09 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
True, but they play Castiel's madness for laughs more often than not. It's as though they don't know how to make someone be mentally ill seriously...which is a shame, because there are so few storylines on TV that tackle mental illness (which is seldom actually funny).

Sigh...anyway, I agree - biggest letdown of the season seven.

Date: 2012-10-08 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phyllis2779.livejournal.com
The PTSD victim tied to a bed is one problem with the realism of this episode but there are many. For example, how did Becky ever get unconscious Sam (after she conked him with a pan or waffle iron) out of her apartment building, all 6' 5" of him, with no one seeing her, into a car (I presume), then out to an isolated cottage and then tied to a bed. She must have gotten some magical strength potion from the CW plus the invisibility cloak from Harry Potter. The episode was ridiculous (and I can see it being offensive to many), but it was funny in parts, e.g, Dean bringing his wedding present. Nevertheless, for this episode you have to go much further than the usual suspension of disbelief when watching SPN.

Date: 2012-10-08 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Very true. I focused on the problems we did see, not the ones we didn't - but there is no way that Becky could have dragged Sam that far without someone noticing. Unless she's got professional thugs on speed-dial. :P

Date: 2012-10-08 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borgmama1of5.livejournal.com
"Now, wouldn't it have been cool if this episode used an OC instead of Becky, so they didn't know the history, but just liked the look of Sam and had no morals...and then when the potion wore off, she had to deal with post-wall Sam freakin' the fuck out? That would have been a much better episode, though, not played for laughs, obviously...so, yeah."


If it hadn't been shoehorned into dealing with Sam's PTSD and totally ignoring them, it MIGHT have worked as a humorous episode...Individual elements of it are entertaining.

PS Did you ever read my Garth backstory?

Date: 2012-10-08 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Ah very cool. I don't think I had read your Garth backstory before! But I like it! It's very Garth :)

Date: 2012-10-08 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennytork.livejournal.com
I'm in the minority, clearly == I LOVED this episode!

I loved how different Sam was under the potion. I love how Becky doesn't KNOW he is a rape survivor and thus does everything WRONG. I love how Becky ultimately works with them to beat the demon and can I just say that Crowley's line about integrity is one of the best in the entire series??

I loved this one!

To each their own.

Date: 2012-10-08 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
and can I just say that Crowley's line about integrity is one of the best in the entire series??

On this we agree!!

I love how Becky doesn't KNOW he is a rape survivor and thus does everything WRONG.

This would have been more awesome if they had REMINDED us that Sam was a rape survivor and addressed it in some way.

I love how Becky ultimately works with them to beat the demon

I do like this. It's redemption for her character after the borderline-rapey bits.

To each their own.

Amen. :)

Date: 2012-10-10 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellecc.livejournal.com
I love that you mentioned the sweater vest, because it was so out of place and yet so hot. Dean in a sweater vest = incredibly sexy. Who knew?

Date: 2012-10-10 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that man can make pretty much everything look sexy. But yeah, why the sudden sweater-vest? It was so random...though, certainly appreciated. ;)

Date: 2012-10-11 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] et-tu-lj.livejournal.com
I like Garth too. He's an odd kooky character that I wasn't 100% on, but I think my initial reaction was biased by disliking this episode so much. I let it bleed over onto the character, and only on rewatch and his later episode realized that it wasn't him that I didn't like. But he makes me laugh, and does get the job done even though he's a goof going about it. It's a nice contrast to all the hunters that we've met, and I enjoyed it.

This episode made me furious, with playing the situation for comedy. It contains a lot of trigger issues for me, and seeing it played for laughs was pretty painful. Coming from a character who's their personification of the fans (and had previously been awesome) made it even worse.

Date: 2012-10-11 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think it was really Garth's second episode that made me like the character more...though, I didn't mind him in this one the first time I saw it.

I remember liking all the humour in this episode as my first reaction - but as soon as I started thinking about it, all the humour was lost. I blame the fact that I've usually been drinking when I watch an episode for the first time. (And possibly the fact that I am sometimes an idiot.) :P

Date: 2012-10-12 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanloo.livejournal.com
Just for the record, I actually liked Garth in this episode, for the same reason that I liked Becky in 'Sympathy' and 'Real Ghostbusters', he was there for only a few scenes.

Becky became annoying when she became more than just a background character and that is why in 'Party on, Garth', Garth just annoyed the living crap out of me, because he was in almost every scene. Yech! Sorry :(

I agree that if it wasn't 'Becky' but some other chick than the story may have worked better.

The annual Las Vegas trip that we first hear about in season seven.
Why would the writers create an 'annual trip' so late in the series? They KNOW how the fans know every last detail, so why bring up something that has never been mentioned before? I think that it would have been cool that the brothers had a yearly trip that is just them, no Dad, where they 're-connect'. That would explain the inconsistency of how long it was since Sam was in touch with his brother regarding 'the Pilot'. Say during summer breaks from Stanford, Sam meet up with Dean, that could be possible. During season2, they may not have 'partied it up', but maybe had gone and had a drink or two in their Dad's honor. Season3 would have been their 'last' one, so that may have been a somber trip as well. Season4 and 5 may have been a try to reconnect. During the 'year' that Dean was with Lisa, he may have gone just to reflect on his baby brother. Soulless wouldn't have cared less and just kept on hunting. Which brings us to season7, what a waste.

Smart!Dean is always sexy. Not as sexy as Sniper!Dean, or BAMF!Dean, or Protective!Dean, but close.

Yep, when Sam wants to hurt Dean, all he has to do is tell Dean that he is no longer needed. (or walk away from him).

"big guy, needs a haircut"
Yep, that is our Sammy, especially this (eight) season, Jared has David Cassidy hair circa 'the Partridge Family'. Damn, did I just date myself? LOL

Sorry, I like the idea that Chuck dumped Becky. It showed that even Chuck realized that she was crazy and had enough of her crap.

"Leviathans" "Denver scramble"
Are those still issues?

Yep, this episode does make one reach for the fanfic.

Date: 2012-10-12 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Haha, agreed on all fronts there - I really have nothing to add.

Well, besides the fact that I do still like Garth, and I like the idea of pre-"Wedding" Becky breaking up with Chuck. Post-"Wedding" Becky I don't care for at all, so yeah, Chuck could have dumped her. :P

When I was a kid long-hair on guys was "in"...I am not sure what anyone was thinking. :P


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