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On Saturday, I woke up with a raw hamburger patty in a ziplock bag tied to my ankle. It was one of the stranger states I've woken up in. I threw out the patty, and put the sock I had worn into the laundry bin...it smelled faintly of meat.

I really didn't know what to wear - but I hadn't worn my Singer Salvage shirt yet, so I figured, sure! Might as well go all out.


I arrived a bit late to Russ Hamilton's panel. For those who don't know, he's the location manager for Supernatural and he REALLY loves his job, which is good.

Anyway, apparently someone on the crew had put people up to asking Russ about his sense of interior decorating as a prank...so that's what I walked in on. Russ was talking about how he decorated his living room. Also, that same crew member had shrink-wrapped Russ' car.

The first serious question that I was: what's the most difficult location to film in. Apparently it's the downtown east side. And as a Vancourite of 2 years, I am not surprised. The downtown east side is not only very tightly packed, it's also not the best of neighbourhoods...and that's putting it VERY lightly. Russ said that in 7x03, they were filming in 13 locations in the downtown east side.

When asked if there's a location he'd like to go back to, he said that he'd go back to 99% of them, but he really liked the mansion they used for Jared's house in The French Mistake.

There was one mansion they filmed at that had just installed new floors, and just after they wrapped, (and not caused by them), a watermain burst. Since the location team always try to help the home-owners as much as possible, they were actually still helping to clean up the house 2 months after the fact.

Episodes take 8 days to shoot and have 2 days of prep (location-wise).

There are 2 scouts for Supernatural that build a database of locations.

The farthest out they've been is Matsqui, BC - which is just south of Mission, BC. They shut down the main part of town to film Good God Y'all. (On the location tour on Monday, I found out that they had to divert 130,000 commuters in order to do this.)

Russ finds his job very rewarding and challenging, and he really loves it.

At one point Russ tried to hide from the questioner, only to realize that he's being filmed and projected onto two large screens at the side of the stage: "Raise your hand if you're moderately retarded!"

Russ kept trying to get Jim Michaels to give him a raise during his panel. One questioner said that she thought he deserved a raise, and Russ left the stage, grabbed her hand, and took her over to sit her beside Jim. A few minutes later, Jim piped up and said that he would give Russ a 10% raise, but that it would go to his new agent.

He was asked if they've ever had to pull out of a location at the last minute. They never have, but they did once have to remove a ton of snow so that they could do pick-up shots.

Russ also talked about the wrap parties, and how he likes to bring a "Tequila suitcase" - which this year was a bass guitar case filled with $1000 worth of tequila. Lot's of people got VERY drunk. One PA attempted to throw a mailbox through a window. It was the best money Russ ever spent.


Steven didn't like the way Creation did his introduction, so he did his own. It was much better! Sadly, I couldn't write it down word for word, but Steven certainly knows how vast his own career has been.

He came out wearing this amazingly absurd jean duster-coat, which he then took off, admitting that he wore it "just for dramatic effect."

Steven then said that he considered profanity to be a stupid concept - that THIS is fine to say, but if you rearrange the letters, it's suddenly not. "Another example is these five fingers..."

Steven doesn't know Rufus' backstory, but he'd like to.

Steven also talked about Kim Manners - how he was brought onto the show because of him. Kim directed Steven in his very first show, and his last appearance on the X-files, and brought him onto Supernatural.

At first Steven thought Rufus would be a retired hunter and a possible go-to-guy for information, but that all changed when they had him actively hunting in S5.

Steven talked about watching the show and the interpretation of characters - and he said that he turned into the show the other day, and was watching, and realized that "Dean is a sadistic killer! He's a sadistic homocidal maniac!"

He talked about how he kept saying ridiculous things as his last words during his death scene or taking a ridiculously long time to die. Until the director just said, "Ok, that's good. How about we do one more, and this time Steven, you're just dead." It was funny to hear him laugh at himself for being ridiculous.

He wasn't surprised to be called back to the show in S5, because he is a very likable guy. :P

He's always sad to die because he wants to explore the richness of the character more. Though, he pointed out that he didn't have it so bad - they killed Mitch Pileggi multiple times.

One questioner asked what he rewarded himself with after he landed his first job. He said that he bought a cowboy hat when he started as a model in 1972.

He talked about his role on Equalizer. Apparently he was booked for the whole season, but "released" after 7 episodes because he was the only cast member they were flying in - so it was to save money. He said it worked out for the best, because it freed him up to audition for 21 Jump Street.

He was asked about why it was Rufus was buried instead of cremated. Steven didn't know that hunters were supposed to be cremated, but that surely that meant that there were "possibilities" for his return.

He hadn't watched Supernatural before appearing on the show, but a friend of his in LA had and was excited when he heard that Steven would be on it.

Someone asked about the fight scene he had with Mitch in the X-files. He said that the fight was all choreographed by him and Mitch. "I'm going to punch you" "Then I'm going to punch you BACK!" He said they purposefully left it ambiguous who one, but his personal opinion is that the man with the gun wins a fight.

Then a questioner came up and asked whether Rufus was born Jewish or whether he converted. And Steven said, "He's Jewish?!?" Hahaha...apparently he had no idea. We all had a good laugh about that. He remembered a line Bobby had, but thought it had been a joke. He then said that Rufus was Sammy Davis Jr. and it would have quite obviously been a conversion.

Motherfucker is his favourite swear word because of the different faces you can make while saying it.

I forget exactly what the question was - maybe what the best advice Kim Manners ever gave him was? Anyway, Steven said that Kim wasn't the type to give advice, he just gave good direction on how to attack certain scenes. He said that Kim was always a director that you could trust to make you look good.

Q: "How are you?"
Steven: "Better than most, not as good as some."

Someone asked either what his favourite music concert has been, or if he could go to any concert what would it be. He said Barbara Streisand, because he really likes her. He then added Kevon Smith, who is not well known but extraodinarily talented and a very effective singer. He had Steven in tears with one song that he wrote for Princess Di.

He was asked how he got into acting. He explained that he had been a ladies shoe salesman on Michigan Ave. in Chicago. All these beautiful women kept coming in who worked in modeling and they kept telling him that he should be a model. So, basically, he started modeling to get laid. Then someone asked him to do a play called (I believe) "Slow Dance in the Killing Round" which was a 3 actor 2 hour play. The review for the play said "we will surely see Steven Williams again on stage", so he started acting. Blue Brothers was one of his first films.


Much like Colin Lawrence, I wasn't sure how Corin's panel would go...because although his part is recurring, it's realively small in terms of mythology. I was soon put at ease by how awesome and funny Corin was. Also, SKINNY! My goodness. I don't think the skinny jeans were helping, but that boy is like a stick.

If he could go to any convention, which one would he go to: A Stephen Hawking convention about theoretical physics, quantum mechanics, and string theory...so he could "figure out how to get that damn StarGate working."

He was asked what his fondest memories of Supernatural and StarGate were - he said it was the same on both sets - the welcoming atmosphere. He said that it's something about British Columbia, because other sets are more tense. He says it usually starts with the lead actors, who are tense and jerks and then just trickles down to everyone. Both SPN and SG were a very relaxed good time. They would mess up takes just for a laugh. He was used to sets where he was only on set for his lines and then he'd run and hide in his trailer - but with both SPN and SG, he actually wanted to hang around on set when he wasn't acting. He attributes it all to Jared and Jensen.

Then a questioner asked whether his character would have still been an ass even if he weren't a demon. Corin had a laugh at that question. Corin - Dean started it! They just rubbed each other the wrong way. "How about, yes." Then he sarcastically said, "we would have been bosom buddies! We would have been loaning each other boxer shorts."

He seriously answered that it's a more interesting dynamic when two people don't get along.

Corin said that he was waiting to die ever since he started on the show, though he didn't want it to happen, he knew it would. He acted out reading the script:

*gets neck broken*
Corin: Ah man...*Christian Campbell pops up with demon eyes*! YES!!! I'M A DEMON!!!"

Corin talked a bit about something called the Sand that was a Stephen King thing. I'll have to admit here that my mind had wondered (thinking about my photo-ops the next day) and I missed the first part of what he said. But apparently Stephen King was on set, and it was a set where they were constantly having actors flying in and out...and Stephen King started giggling, and when someone asked him what he was laughing at, he said "what are the chances of one of those actors dying in a plane crash?"

The next question was again about him being a demon. And he said that since he didn't know he was a demon for the first few episodes, he thought he was probably the nicest demon on the show.

He was asked what the best advice he received in his career was (I think), and when he was 12 he worked on a project with a "whole whoo-ha of great actors." (Which I thought was hilarious, because I've only heard the word whoo-ha said to refer to ladyparts). It was Tucker, which was a Francis Ford Coppola project. They were wearing period clothing with tons of layers. After filming one day, Corin was taking off all these layers, and leaving them in a pile on a bench, when Jeff Bridges walked by. Jeff asked if Corin was going to leave the clothes in a heap like that, and Corin shrugged and said "I guess." And Jeff told him that the crew work really hard and are there long after the actors go home, and that anything you can do to make the crews' life easier, you should do - so hang up your clothes. Since then, Corin has always hung up his clothes, and he is very surprised that very few actors do that.

He was asked what song he would have sung at Karaoke. He said that he can't carry a note, so he wouldn't sing anything and that karaoke makes him really uncomfortable. He once went to a karaoke bar and rapped a Beach Boy's song, and a guy at the bar yelled at him for it. The audience than called out and wanted him to rap the song (as many of you know, I hate the dance-monkey-dance aspect to these cons, so I cringed), but Corin was good about it, and just joked that he could "wrap a present" but that he wasn't doing any other sort of rapping.

He was asked how it was that he was able to transition from child actor to an adult actor while remaining sane and normal. "I didn't" Corin said, and went on to say that "it's a trip." But he thinks it helped that no one ever forced him into acting, it was always something he wanted to do and he had a supportive family. He also has always continued to take acting classes. It's not fame or fortune that he's after, it's the experience and the craft.

He was asked if there was a difference between Supernatural cons and StarGate cons. Corin said that at the Supernatural cons, there was not one cardboard StarGate and no people walking around in military fatigues.

Then he went on to tell the FUNNIEST story....


The only main difference in Conventions is with hardcore Star Trek conventions. They are not fun, and Corin says "never again." His first convention was a Star Trek Con in Florida. He was wearing a shirt about wrestling, and this massive 6'4'' guy dressed up as Klingon saw him in the hallway and demanded a wrestling match. Corin refused, and the Klingon attacked him anyway. So Corin calls for help, but no one helps...he managed to get away and started running for the elevators. "It was like a scene from a horror movie," Corin explained, as he mimed pressing the elevator button frantically and banging on the door.

The elevator came and he got in on time, but he didn't know where to go. So he ended up wandering into the pool area, where he heard this guitar music playing. He discovered that the guy who played Flash Gordon was there playing his guitar...for a hottub full of Klingons. They were all drinking blood-wine, but apparently as a Klingon you can't just drink wine, you have to poor it all over your face. So they were basically drinking and sitting in hottub of blood-wine, while they demanded more music. He said it was "like they had enslaved Flash Gordon."

In terms of upcoming projects, Corin has a role in a film called Besties - about teenagers girls who kill. He plays one of their fathers. He had a role in something called Nuclear Family, but he's not sure how/when that is going to be released. He was also in something called Sandsharks, which was filmed for $130,000 over 11 days. It's a comedy "for the right reasons." (As opposed, he says, to the time he was in something called Mansquito).

The longest shoot he was ever on was Operation Dumbo Drop. It was filmed for 5 months in Thailand, and then the Thai mafia put out a "newsletter" saying that they would hold the actors hostage, so the studio pulled the plug on the shoot 2 weeks early and flew them all to Florida to finish. The whole thing took 7 or 8 months.


I just have to say that I LOVE these two. They've really taken over the Cons whenever they are there - in a good way. I really wish that THEY could host a Con at some point instead of Creation. Richard and Matt have a true love for the fandom and they are really gracious and kind to us.

They spent the whole panel wandering around the audience mostly - which meant from my seat that I couldn't really see them unless I looked at the screens and watched whatever the camera operators managed to capture.

Matt first thanked us, saying that last nights' karaoke was the single best time he had ever had at a con. "What happened last night - that got out of hand really fast."

Richard added "Professional actors stage-diving....and Sebastian enjoyed every crotch grab you gave him."

Matt lifted up a large inflatable duck that a woman was trying to blow up in the first row. She had blown up everything except the head. Matt looked at the duck and said "for the record, this is how I felt this morning."

They were asked who's idea it was for the 60s theme. They explained that last year at VanCon was the first time that the karaoke was held in the main auditorium and not in a smaller venue/bar. Richard said it was REALLY awkward with everyone sitting in their assigned seats. So they decided to start trying to make karaoke night a more relaxed and enjoyable party, and it just kept building up.

They went shopping together for the outfits and were thinking of recording it for the fans, but even they thought that was a bit too much.

Richard then told this hilarious story about how they encountered this woman as they left the store. She kept telling Matt "Oh, you're so fine!" and Richard said, "I thought maybe she had seen the show - but no, she just thought he was fine."

Matt: "The first thing I said, was 'Can you have some respect for my wife!' *gestures to Richard*"

Richard continues the story about how she wanted a picture, but not of her and Matt, she just wanted a picture of Matt. So, fine, he let her take a picture. And she started repeating, "Oh, you're my husband!" and then she held up her phone to Matt and said "Look at this." and Richard said that Matt's face immediately changed and he quickly made an swift exit. When they were alone again, Richard asked Matt what she had shown him - it had been a picture of her bare ass.

Matt: "It was awkward on so many levels...especially since I'm with my partner."

Another questioner got up to the mic and thanked them for the karaoke night. She said it was her first time and it was absolutely amazing.
Matt: "Not everyone can say that about their first time."

They said that afterwards, they hugged like they had just won the Superbowl.
Richard: "Like we had just finished a competition number on Glee."

Richard asked why Sebastian was even there last night, and then did a really good impression of him, saying "Oh wow, a crowd, I'll just paint on a shirt."

Richard brought tea over for Matt, "like a good spouse."

Richard was asked if he ever thought of being a comedian. He said that he doesn't want to be. He has friends who do it, but it's not for him.

Matt was asked about his role on 90210.
Richard: "You're the ruggedly handsome and misunderstood what?"
Matt laughs, and admits that he's posing as a 20-year old, ruggedly handsome love-interest, "with a secret?" Richard askes, and Matt admits that the character has secret motives.

A fan asked Richard about the necklace he always wears. He explained that he bought it 20 years ago when filming a movie. It was a bathroom chain, for the tub, that was being sold for $1. He and his friend both bought one. His friend has since died of cancer, so he still wears it in part to remember him.

At this point, Matt crossed the room and gave Richard a sincere hug, which was very sweet. (And also nice because I'm sure many of us wanted to hug him, but couldn't.)

A fan asks Matt to stay still so she can take a picture, so Matt poses.
Richard: "That's someone with a sexy secret."

Richard then goes on to talk about poses in catalogues, and what he calls the "father-son underwear pose" - he gets Matt to play the part of the son, and they give a demonstration - it is horribly cheesy.

Then a questioner asked what they think Michael and Gabriel's relationship would be.
Matt: "I'm Michael, I like long walks on the beach, sunsets, and you."
Richard: "You can't hit on me, we're brothers."
Matt: "Obviously, you haven't read the fanfiction. Michael can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants."

Richard then asked the questioner to give her answer. She said ventured the idea that Michael would be disappointed in Gabriel for running away. At which point, Richard actually seemed to get really offended at the idea. "So what?! Michael's just going to judge him?!" It was honestly hard to tell if Richard was getting mock offended, or really offended, but a comment he made later in the panel seemed to indicate to me that he may have been truly defensive of Gabriel.

Matt brought it back to karaoke with the next question and talked about how Chad must have set the record for the longest ever fake-smoked cigarette. When the questioner asked if they'd consider chosing another decade for the theme, Richard said: "We could do 1980s burnt out rockstar - Oh Chad, you came in costume! - *as Chad*: What?"

Richard really does excellent impressions of both Chad and Sebastian.

A questioner asked what their most awkward moment on set was - Richard told the story about accidentally entering the wrong trailer and nearly being eaten by Jared's dogs. And Matt told the story about posing for a ridiculous set photo with Amy (young Mary).

The girl whose whale-hat Sebastian had commendered the night before asked if he was going to pay for the dry-cleaning. The answer: Your whale is pregnant. "Sebastian does that. He accidentally impregnants things."

They were asked if they had ever done theatre. Richard answered that he started in theatre, but that LA isn't very good for it. Matt has never done theatre, though he would love to go live in London for 5 years and try it out. He was in the Wizard of Oz in elementary school.
Richard: "He played the ruggedly handsome and misunderstood..."
Matt *laughs embarrassed*: "I played the ruggedly handsome and misunderstood...little person in the lollipop guild."

The girl asking the question was in musical theatre, so they took her onstage to sing them something. She was flustered, but eventually just sung both parts to the beginning of Summer Lovin' from Grease.

For the next question, they asked first if she loved the stage too, and when she said yes, they brought her up as well and told her to sing the question. After getting flustered, she too did a pretty good job of it - and it was hilarious, because it was a question about Matt's drag outfit in Cowgirl Up. The face Richard made at the question was hilarious. Matt explains that he was playing a transgendered Sheriff, and recommends people check out the webseries - "don't judge, just watch."

Richard was asked about his reaction to getting killed.
Richard: "It's hard to complain about a show that was supposed to be a one off and ended up as 4 episodes, and having my favourite character that I have ever played on TV."

He added that it was really rare to get such a rich part, where you get to essentially two characters in one episode. Matt and him both had that opportunity.

If forgot what caused this, but Matt declared that he was going to "get serious" for a minute, and so Richard made fun by having creation turn down the house-lights. Matt tried to set up a spot light, which Richard remarked "only highlights your balls".

Matt said that this year he forgot his Dad's birthday, which was something even more horrible than you'd expect, because he was only raised by his Dad. He felt horrible, so his message to all of us was "don't forget your only parent's birthday."

They were then asked to tell the story of the proposal that led to their marriage. Richard decided that they would save it for next time, and they thanked us and left the stage.


Ok, let me just preface this by saying that although Sebastians style of humour appeals to some. It does not appeal to me. He gets carried away with attention and gets more and more manic and uncontrolled as the panel progresses - he makes everything into a joke about sex, which would have been fine if he were wittier. Instead it just devolves into crude humour which triggers my embarrassment squick and does not amuse me. So, for the interest of not relieving every torturous moment, I will not present to you the only sincere answers during Sebastians panel.

1. He climbed mountains all summer.
2. Fringe and Supernatural are both great sets, and he has the utmost respect for their kindness. He loves working in Canada. The only difference is that on Supernatural they laugh A LOT. Joshua Jackson is a very kind, generous person. Josh organized a softball game.
3. The most difficult scene he had on Supernatural was trying not to laugh while Jared ran his hand up Jensen's leg.

Sebastian saw Jim Michael's in the audience and bought him up on stage. Jim taught us the hand signal he uses when he wants to tell an actor that they are a little too "over the top."

Then thankfully, Misha's voice came on from back stage with a fake accent and asked what Sebastian thought of Misha's character being so "bold and brave"...when Misha came on the stage, Sebastian faked making-out with him (Misha got his hand up over Sebastians mouth really quickly), and then humped him.


Sadly, the tone had been set, the questioners who had lined up seemed to still be in the mindset of Sebastian's panel.

Misha chided Sebastian for playing with the giant duck that Misha had made the fan blow up. "This was a big job...a big blow job."

Then the words "Sebastian says: I'm a badder ass angel than you are" appeared on the screen.

Misha wanted to be sure Sebastian had left the room before he started.
Misha: "I can't focus because I'm worried someone is going to come and assault me."

The first question was what would happen between God and Castiel. Misha asked us questions instead of answering: Is Cas the original God? Would he make out with himself?

The next quetioner brought him cake for his recent birthday. He was excited and asked where it was.
Questioner: "Under my chair."
Misha: Suddenly what was appealing isn't appealing any more.

The person who had blown up the duck asked why she had done it.
Misha: "Why did you spend 4 hours blowing up a duck? I just wanted to see you do it."

Then Misha said that he wanted to add it to the duck pond, because it would submerge and drown all the other ducks. He then wrote on it "Clif, I want to give you my big diuck. Misha Collins."

His favourite episode was the French Mistake, because there were inside jokes to the crew level.

The next questioner asked if she could rub his thigh and talk dirty to him.
Misha: "Note to self - Do not go on after Balthazar."

Three things he couldn't live without: Tea, Running, and Pornography.

The next questioner asked if he could do the contortion from his episode of Nip/Tuck.
Misha: "Just for those that don't know, she's trying to get me to perform self-fellatio. No. Sit down."

The next questioner asked if he had managed to make the jade bowl he had been working on last year. He said that he ended up making it out of marble, because he broke the jade. It was a gift for his brother's wedding.
Misha: "You have elevated this side of the room. You asked a nice question about handicrafts! Oh and look, you're barefoot! How earthy."

He was asked why he did so much horror when he didn't like horror.
Misha: Money.
His dirty-secret - "I can't watch Supernatural because it scares me. Even when I'm in it." It's fun to shoot though. He likes having bullets flying at you..."we stopped using real bullets in S4."

He was asked why God seemed to favour Castiel. He said that God and Castiel used to be lovers. "God is a brutal lover."
In all seriousness, he seemed to indicate that we would find out why God favoured Castiel in S7.

Misha then apropos of nothing, told us a story about how he was flying to the east coast from LA. He accidentally ate something he's allergic to right before the flight (minced garlic from a jar), and it gave him really bad gas. He made the guy behind him on the plane faint...twice. It was horribly embarrassing.

He was then asked if he were a mythical creature, what other mythical creature he would like to have sex with. He said he'd like to see a moosekateer have sex with a minion - or rather, the other way around.
Misha: "What has happened here?! Sebastian is a bad influence."

He was asked about whether he would get to change his costume now that he was God.
Misha: "having hope causes pain."... "I think they're saving money on wardrobe."

He was asked about whether Jimmy is still alive and what he might think of all this. Misha said that he thinks Jimmy is still in there. He said that it's not exactly nice, what happened to Jimmy. They take a guy with a family and kinda killed him, "but whatevs." He thinks maybe Cas should at least give the family some money, or show up once a year and pretend to be Jimmy.

One thing he likes/dislikes about Castiel?
He likes being able to time-travel. He doesn't like that Castiel isn't good with women. (at which point someone in the audience yelled: But he's good with men!)

The question was whether he knew about the campaigns to save Castiel and whether campaigns like that had any effect, and how the questioner cried in the finale last season.
Misha: "You cried? Awww..."
Misha: "I may be wrong, but I'm not...it probably just makes them laugh with glee, manically."

Which is an answer I love by the way, because anyone who reads my journal frequently knows that I really can't stand fan-campaigns that attempt to influence writing. (And if any of the people who have friended me in the last few days take issue with this, I suggest defriending me rather than trying to argue your position.)

The next question was about what memory in Heaven God!Cas would reside in, or would it be the same as Cas's favourite human memory. Misha said that it was lawnbowling in an English garden - then he added that we would actually see it, and it would actually be that boring.

The next question was really long and hard, and Misha made hilarious concentration faces while it was being asked. He then accussed the questioner of "leading the witness" adding, "you're going to tire out before I do."

His favourite book and author: Oh The Places You'll Go, by Dr. Suess.

Sebastian texted him, and Misha laughed and told us how they used to text Brad the camera operator during shoots, because Brad has to keep really still. He said that one time Jared actually sat next to Brad and started tweezing Brad's ear-hair.

He was asked about self-censorship on his twitter account.
Misha: "I don't want to be a total douchebag, but a little bit of one."

Then the panel was over!


This was my very first photo-op ever. I had watched them occur last year and sort of new what to expect...like, I knew they were fast. I just didn't realize HOW fast. Plus, I'm not really the fangirl type...I talk a good game, but at the end of the day I never really forget that these people are just human like me and there is nothing inherently special about them (besides perhaps good genetics). So, I guess although I get excited and nervous, I don't tend to "fangirl" (in the verb sense).

Anyway, Misha was nice. He smiled at me and said "Hi!" I said "Hi" back and then he put his hand around my waist and moved me into position. I put my hand around his waist, and smiled at the camera, and we were done.


I then went into the merchandise room and finished buying $250 worth of stuff for my friends, and Sharon. I spent everything except for $2. Not a bad use of free-money, I say.

Only $9 of that was spent on myself. I only wanted a Winchester Bros. mug, so that's the only thing I bought for myself. It's now sitting on my shelf at home on top of my stack of coasters, next to my Masters degree, a tin of buttons, my tenor recorder, and a large polished granite book-end.

Everyone was very thankful for their swag, and kept acting like it was beyond the call of duty for me to buy them things - but honestly, the choice was to waste $241 or get people presents. I think I would have been stupid to do chose the first option.


So I went out to pizza with my friend, Kathleen. It was delicious. On the way back into the hotel, we were walking across this very short section of the courtyard that had patiostones separated by striped of grass. Sure enough, I stepped half-on a patiostone and half-off with my injured ankle...

*me laughing at a joke Kathleen made*
Me (thinking): My god, I have such a dorky laugh....and now I'm on the ground.

The good news was that it actually wasn't that bad. It just hurt because my ankle was sprained already. I didn't add another injuring, I just aggrevated the one I already had. I probably wouldn't have even fallen if my ankle hadn't already been injured.

Kathleen went to the bar and got me some ice in a bag, and we went down to the main auditorium again to wait for autographs. I sat down across the first row of seats at the side so that I could put my foot up and ice my ankle - then I realized I was in full view of Matt Cohen and Misha, where they were sitting waiting for autographs to begin. Misha didn't look over, but I saw Matt stare at my foot in concern for a second, before he was distracted by the first set of autographs. Don't mind your gimpy fans, guys. :P


Matt was really sleepy. And I don't blame him. He was probably hung over. He was nice though, I told him that I loved him as Michael, and he thanked me. I didn't talk to Misha, because the girl in front of me was VERY chatty, so he just talked to her. Apparently there was a busload of Ontarions that drove 53 hours to be here. Misha said, "Some assholes took a bus 53 hours!" but I'm sure he meant 'assholes' affectionately.

I didn't know what to say to Steven Williams, so I just told him that I was sad Rufus died. He said, "write emails!" I told him I would, even though that's against my principles (apparently lying to be polite isn't against my principles though, fyi).

Corin was great. The girl ahead of me (chatty) told him that she loved the Supernatural conventions the best, because they were so relaxed and the guests were so open to the fans, so she thanked him for that.

Corin was in the process of politely agreeing and thanking her, when the Creation woman beside him said: "That's Creation!" As though Creation was behind the fact that the Supernatural actors are all awesome people. I was pretty offended at that, because all Creation does is organize the event and overcharge us for everything (in my opinion...I mean, $10 for a Jpeg of a photo we paid $209 for? SERIOUSLY?!). In my opinion the reason these conventions are so awesome is SOLELY down the openness and the good humour of the actors! Thank you very much. I mean seriously, Richard and Matt both poured a LOT of effort into giving us the best goddamn karaoke event the fandom has ever seen, and that had NOTHING to do with Creation besides them letting them take it over...so they could DO IT BETTER.

Seriously, I want Richard and Matt to host a Supernatural Con themselves. Especially since I wouldn't mind overpaying if I knew the people who were profitting were those two. I'd gladly put THEIR kids through college.

Ok, um rant over.

I just said a polite Thanks to Sebastian.


So, my hopes of not having things brought down to Sebastian's level were dashed right away when Adam from Creation immediately started making very similar jokes.

Matt Cohen also declared an immunity to Icing (which I promised to explain to ratherastory, but then forgot to...but basically it's when you present someone with a Smirnoff Ice and demand they chug it. It's something Matt did on his liveblog a couple of times, and some fans of tried to do it to actors at conventions. Personally, I would vomit pretty fast if anyone ever tried to get me to chug anything, let alone Smirnoff Ice.)

There were only two centre-pieces. Someone who had blown up a male sex-doll and dressed it up like Cas, and [livejournal.com profile] borgmama1of5's fantastically hand-painted Sam and Dean ken-dolls, complete with very accurate wardrobe. Matt was really impressed with the dolls and took them over to show Misha...at which point Sebastian grabs them and pulls Dean's legs apart, declaring "he doesn't have a cock" and then proceeds to put them in a 69 position and laugh. It took everything I had to remain seated and not go over there and smack him for being so disrespectful to the hours of work it took to make such accurate depictions of the boys. So, yeah, at that point, Sebastian was my absolute least favourite person in the room, and I very much debated just walking out right then. Especially after (from scale of applause) the blow-up Cas sex-doll won for best centre piece (and Sebastian proceeded to mimic it's intended use.)

Of course, the first person to come to our table was Sebastian. Thankfully, [livejournal.com profile] borgmama10f5 had very quickly hid the dolls just before he arrived. He just talked about Conventions and Crowley and that's it...I didn't really write anything down, because like I said - least favourite person.

Next Steven Williams came over, and I like him, so I started to cheer up a bit. We had all just been talking about Star Trek, so he just joined in on the conversation, talking about how Star Trek predicted/inspired a lot of the technology we use today. Steven said that in life, you just had to wake up every day and "have fun and do no harm." If everyone did that, there'd be peace on earth...."and get laid on a regular basis."

(Again, sex jokes coming from Steven Williams - funny (I am FAR from a prude, my goodness). But sex jokes coming from Sebastian, uncomfortable and not-funny....I think it's because Sebastian seems to have a lack of respect with his jokes, whereas the other actors can make jokes AND be respectful.)

Misha came by next, while half the table had just been talking about how tight David Bowie's pants were in Labyrinth...and how they got tighter as the movie progressed.
[livejournal.com profile] ratherastory: It's a scientific fact.
Misha: I'm surprised they were able to do a double-blind study.
[livejournal.com profile] ratherastory (paraphrased from memory): You don't need a double-blind study on empirical evidence. It's not a medical study; it's an observational one. Multiple observers = multiple datapoints.
[livejournal.com profile] ratherastory FTW!

[livejournal.com profile] borgmama1of5 asked Misha what his first job had been and what he rewarded himself with. He said the first job was accidentally paid for 2 months instead of two days, but he couldn't remember if he bought anything. He rewarded himself with sushi in Vancouver on another job.

Corin Nemec came next and he started by shaking all of our hands, which is a good way to leap straight into my heart btw. I love people who shake hands. One of my tablemates had this really awesome beaded bag that she had made with the protection tattoo design on it. So we talked about how awesome it was...and we also talked about customs at the airport.

Next was Matt Cohen, and he too commented on the bag. (It was a very impressive bag). He told us that the Sam and Dean dolls should have won. (they had been returned to the table at this point, since Sebastian was safetly across the room.) Matt thanked us all very sincerely for having him at the convention, saying that he "had so much fun last night." He then said he wanted to give us all hugs, because that's what he does - he hugs people.

He is VERY good at hugging. One of the best hugs ever, in my humble opinion. Very firm and sincere. You really can't do anything but like Matt Cohen after a hug like that.

That hug was the end of the "celebrity" portion of the evening. We hung around and talked for a little longer, until I suddenly hit the wall and couldn't take people anymore - so I fled for home, and passed out before I could muster up the energy to ice my ankle again.

Date: 2011-08-31 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com
Damn, I came off as really bitchy to Misha there, didn't I? /o\ He and Sebastian were getting on my nerves with their consistent refusal to answer even serious questions (that the rude/sexual ones were dismissed I totally get) and invalidation of the fans who were there to see them and paid a hell of a lot of money and genuinely admired their work.

I think I was tired and pissed off by then because it was 11:30pm and Sebastian had already played inappropriately with the Sam and Dean dolls (which enraged me on [livejournal.com profile] borgmama1of5's behalf, not because of the Wincest but because of the obvious disrespect for all her hard work), and I ended up taking out my annoyance on Misha.

In short, oops. But still. I don't like being lectured at. I know what an empirical study is, God damn it. :P

Date: 2011-08-31 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I thought you were awesome - mind you, I was basically in the exact same headspace as you at that point. I was cheering you on in my head, believe me. If that's wrong, then I don't want to be right. ;)

Date: 2011-08-31 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borgmama1of5.livejournal.com
Your detailed summaries of the panels really includes all the highlights--thank you for doing such a comprehensive post! I was there and remembered these points as I read your post, but without your recap it would have faded into a blur.

And I appreciate your defense of my dolls. It was the disrepect from Sebastian that got to me. And he seems to pull Misha down to his level :(

Date: 2011-08-31 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yes, at the time I didn't quite no why I was so enraged - because I definitely don't mind lewd humour, but analyzing it afterwards, I realized it was the complete disrespect that pissed me off so much. Sebastian is going to have to rescue some orphans or something to get back into my good graces.

I'm glad you like the report! It's why I write them too - I don't want to forget, so I take notes and type them up. I used to keep a diary for the same reason. I just wanted to remember the good times (and vent about the bad).

Date: 2011-08-31 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com
I think the whole table radiated disapproval at him —which would have worked better if he hadn't been quite so oblivious. I remain convinced he was actually high on some kind of substance.

Date: 2011-08-31 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I remain convinced he was actually high on some kind of substance.

I almost hope he was.

And yeah, the minute he sat down, I was like "well, this is awkward."

Date: 2011-08-31 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
Yeah, that was simply rude to the nth degree. Buying their own press a tad, maybe? I imagine it's easy to get a little full of yourself, with an entire fandom at your fingertips. Hmmm.

Date: 2011-08-31 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borgmama1of5.livejournal.com
Which is precisely why I really appreciate Jared and Jensen for remaining very down-to-earth about receiving such attention!

I know I would not care nearly as much about the show if the boys acted full-of-themselves like he who will not be named.

Date: 2011-08-31 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
That would've been incredibly annoying, the incessant sexual innuendo in lieu of answering questions, especially since it is not cheap to attend! Some things are best enjoyed in small doses but you know "boys." One gets going, then it's all down hill from there. My husband and his friends are the same way until I give them the stinkeye. There's a time and a place for everything.

Thanks for taking the time to journal your trip, though! I hope to hit one, some day, but if I don't, at least I've got some idea of what I'm missing. And I'm glad y'all had a decent time. :D

Date: 2011-08-31 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Exactly. Boys will be boys, I guess, and it's got to be extremely easy to get carried away in that scenario - especially when there are 700 women just laughing along.

No problem, I'd be journaling this anyway. Though, man, it did just take me all day to type that one up - so we'll see when the heck I get Day 3 posted. I wanted to do both today, but I don't know if it's possible.

Date: 2011-08-31 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vodou-blue.livejournal.com
Thank you so very much for that report! I get a really good sense of what it was like there. (since I'll likely never go to a con, this is the next best thing for me)

I appreciate that you didn't give a fawning, fangirl report where you didn't feel it. When someone tells how they really felt and what they really thought it shares more of the experience better, because it's realistic. *HUG*

Date: 2011-08-31 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Thanks, that's part of the reason I write the reports - so people who can't go to the cons can see what they're like through my eyes a little.

And yeah, I'm not a very good liar - if I'm not feeling something, then I'm just not feeling it, you know? Same with when I AM feeling something, it's hard for me to deny it. :)

*hug right back*

Date: 2011-08-31 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaybee751.livejournal.com
Thanks for the great post! I told my husband about some of the notable things in your report that I missed at the con: the Creation woman taking credit for the stars being awesome people, and Sebastian being a tool.

Hubby's response: if Creation tries to take credit for our experience *ever again* a possible response is "If Creation Entertainment is so great, why can't you stop Sebastian from being such a disrespectful, creepy, self-centred infantile jerk?"

Obviously I was as squicked as you by his panel, but after what he did to the dolls - that is WRONG.

Date: 2011-08-31 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Your hubby is a wise man. Sometimes I do wish that I were quicker on my feet with that stuff.

I really must say that Corin Nemec and Matt Cohen saved the desert party for me. They were so respectful. It was very much how I needed to be treated after Sebastian's antics. So, again, kudos to them - and that had nothing to do with Creation, because Creation was just goading Sebastian on.

Date: 2011-08-31 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com
You should totally send an email after that! :) You know, just a plain, sane, "thank you for the autograph, it was great to meet you in person, hope to see you on my TV again soon!" kind of thing. Just to balance out all the crazy emails, you know?

Date: 2011-08-31 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Ok, I'm a sleepy McGee, so I'm not sure what you are talking about...what crazy emails? Who? Sorry...I be confused at my inability to follow this conversation thread.

Date: 2011-08-31 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com
oopsie daisy. It's not you, it's me.

Um. can I plead , "was in 10 hour training all day, my brain is fried and reading comprehension is now beyond me"/?

Date: 2011-08-31 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Oh good. I thought I was losing my mind. And yes, you can totally claim that. I'm claiming "was at a Con for 4 days, barely eating, while injured = not in the best of states."

Date: 2011-08-31 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msninacat.livejournal.com
That really blows about Sebastian basically ruining Misha's panel for you. Granted the other fans should have let it go and moved on but I'm comfortable blaming Sebastian. I don't really find him all that funny either. He had his moments on the show but even those weren't as endearing to me as say Gabriel's were. I'm glad I won't be lynched in your journal for not liking Balthazar or Sebastian. I just find him too much of an attention whore to be genuine. Which is odd because Misha is a total attention whore but in a much more genuine way. idk

I'm glad you enjoyed everything else and now I'm really kicking myself for missing karaoke and Corin Nemic's panel. lol

Date: 2011-08-31 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Wait, you were there? How come I can't keep track of people! Geez, me. We could have hung-out...unless we did hang out? No...I'm so confused. I want to meet you. TOO MANY PEOPLE AT THE CON. Well, anyway, I was the limping girl.

I didn't like Balthazar as much as Gabriel either. Much like the actor, the character was a little...I don't know, not genuine enough, not layered enough. He did a good job in the finale though, I'll give him that. Personally though, if we're comparing him to Gabriel, Gabriel wins hands down.

Date: 2011-08-31 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msninacat.livejournal.com
No I missed those events at the Nashville convention. Sorry to confuse you. But I feel all special that you'd want to meet me. *blushes* I'd be limping with you with my feet and leg issues.

I tried very hard not to compare him to Gabriel because yeah we can have more than one goofy angel but then it was just never as good so I wound up doing it anyway.

I also am glad none of the Creation staff tried to say it was them that made the convention good when I was there because I would have told them, "no, it's the actors." You could hold it in an abandoned warehouse and charge the same and we would show up to support them not Creation. /crazytiredrant lol

Date: 2011-08-31 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Phew. I was about to be really mad at myself for not knowing you were there! I think I managed to meet up with everyone from my flist who attended...or at least everyone that I talk to on a somewhat regular basis.

Now we have NO goofy angels...I'm kind of hoping that Gabriel will eventually come back, even though a part of me wants SOME deaths to be final. I just miss seeing Richard and his good acting on my favourite show. I'm always amazed he was only on there for 4 episodes total - he felt like such a bigger presence.

And yes, I agree - I would gladly trek out to some abandoned warehouse - where we had to pee in outhouses or something - to see the actors, and I would probably have just as much, if not more, fun.

Date: 2011-08-31 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franztastisch.livejournal.com
The more you write about Seb, the more he reminds me of those sleazy drunk guys you get in clubs who think they're both hilarious and Gods gift to the world. Which is odd because I already got that impression of him even before I knew anything about him. Huh.

Anyway, I'm glad that overall it was a success and I'm jealous of the Matt hug! (Well, I'm jealous of the whole thing really :P)

Date: 2011-08-31 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yes, I think that accurately describes him...and also, yes, I was not overly surprised when he turned out to be that way.

I'm jealous of my past-self getting that Matt hug too! :P

Date: 2011-08-31 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franztastisch.livejournal.com
Life imitating art or the other way around?

Bah. :P Not as jealous as me!

Date: 2011-08-31 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Well, I suppose it was good casting at any rate. :P

Date: 2011-08-31 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dairygirl.livejournal.com
Your report did make me feel like I was there. Of course, thank you for editing Sebastian's panel. Does sound like he's something I would not appreciate either. Crude humor only goes so far and gets old very quickly. (Too bad Misha's panel just extended the pain.) I'm glad you got a genuine hug from Matt out of the deal and that Corin Nemec was a good guest. I've seen a lot of his early work and was thrilled and surprised when he showed up in Supernatural.

A convention put on by the actors? That would be an industry turn around, yeah?

Date: 2011-08-31 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
A convention put on by the actors? That would be an industry turn around, yeah?

Haha, yeah, it's never going to happen - but if it WERE to happen, I think Richard and Matt should be the ones who do it.

I'm glad you liked my report - and I'm also glad you LIKED that I edited Sebastian's panel. That was really more for me than it was for you guys - I took more notes, I just didn't want to relive the thing. :P

I must say that Misha did eventually find a nice balance between humour and seriousness - and the crude humour he did use was much more humorous and tactful than Sebastian's.

Date: 2011-09-05 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khek.livejournal.com
Even with the unfortunate crude behavior of some and the hurt ankle, it sounds like the overall con was a great experience! Someday, I'm going to have to get to Vancouver! Will there be a con in 2012? :)

Creation. I wish they didn't have such a monopoly on the con circuit. If there was some competition, things might not only cost less, but be more organized and wider-ranging.

I love your write ups!

Date: 2011-09-05 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
There will indeed be a Con in 2012. Jensen, Jared, and Misha have already signed up to appear, I believe.

And yeah, it sucks that there's not more competition in the con circuit.

Date: 2011-09-08 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marlowe78.livejournal.com
Ow, no. Not twisting the ankle again! But I know, too, that ankles tend to do that :-( Just glad to hear its ok now. Or oker. :-D

Aw, man.! I'm pretty sure *I* wouldn't have been able to keep silent about Sebastian Roche behaving like that. Really not. I used to like him, but your description - and I totally get what you mean about someone being able to pull of dirty jokes while others can't - makes me dislike him a lot.

Keep him dead!

I'm really happy for you that you had a good time - even with a twisted ankle and a twisted Sebastian ;-)


Date: 2011-09-08 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I feel kind of bad, making people dislike Sebastian...I mean, I can only describe my own experience and my own reactions - so people are seeing him through that filter, and a lot of the Convention guests were laughing along with him...but yeah...I kind of don't mind him being dead on the show. :P

Date: 2011-09-08 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marlowe78.livejournal.com
Well, to be honest, I mainly liked his accent :-D

It's not even physical attraction, so it's not such a big loss for me. My heart's kinda given away anyway (and he really has to squeeze in between Jensen and Jared *grins* ) and crude can be fun, but people who don't know when to stop are not fun!

Also, I would have growled at the convention-woman. Seriously...isn't she ashamed of herself? Was she waiting all day for one fan saying something like that?
Also, it's incredibly rude to take the friendly words to someone away and not only twist their friendliness, but also sour their day. After all, it COULD lead to people doubting the sincerity of the actors.

*still pissed on Matt's behalf*

Date: 2011-09-08 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yeah, I wish I had been quicker on my feet with a snarky response for that woman - but sadly I was in "be polite" mode.


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