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I submit two pieces of evidence:

Missing person’s report on one of the females lists the last time she was seen as 11/09/12. The women apparently disappeared in the last week. It was October, 2011 (well, actually it was 2010, but that didn't make any sense either), about 6 episodes ago, yet in Caged Heat (3 episodes ago), they say they’ve been working for Crowley for “months” – indicating that a lot of time had passed between All Dogs Go To Heaven and Caged Heat. I doubt “months” means a whole year though...which means that either “months” is incorrect and the date here is December 09, 2011 (which completely goes against US date-writing customs)...or we just have to disregard this date entirely for being completely unbelievable. I’m going with the latter option.

And then we have this:

The date on the missing person’s report from “a year ago” has a last seen date of “November 2, 2009” which is NOT a year ago and would have been mid season 5 (it's not even a year ago if the present date was 2012). Therefore, I think I’m justified in throwing out all date from the art/props department that appear in this episode – they obviously have absolutely no idea what’s going on.

Unless they some how get their act together, I'm going to have to work solely off of dialog for the timeline. I REALLY hope the writers know what freakin' year it is in the show. I'm beginning to think a side-effect of ending the apocalypse is that time has lost all meaning.
(caps by [livejournal.com profile] crystalchain )

Date: 2011-02-15 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msninacat.livejournal.com
There so much that could have happened with that. Perhaps the person assigned the sheets was not used to using the US date system and accidentally did it normally for them and just no one caught it?

The time skip definitely seems to have thrown everyone off. I think there's a lot of communication fail as it trickles down to the support people and is just leaving it really open for mistakes. It's unfortunate but we all know show has made mistakes with date time lines in the past and the creator himself is most unapologetic about it. lol

I'm gonna chalk it up to my Harry Potter time line experiences where there's just so many layers and events and time lines that you're bound to make a mistake even if you did come up with it. XD

I know it doesn't bode well for those of us that have an anal retentive attention to detail but I'm clinging to their creative license right to mess it up since they came up with it. lol

Not trying to discredit your frustration with it. Just babbling to make you feel less crazy. idk
Edited Date: 2011-02-15 09:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-02-15 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com
They just make bad decisions when it comes to timing. Tsk. This whole skip-a-year thing didn't really gain them anything a simple four months wouldn't have, and now they're very confused about their dates.

Date: 2011-02-15 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Well, I disagree with that. Four months isn't long enough for Dean to build himself a life that he would have felt conflicted about leaving - and a whole bunch of other things. So, they gained a lot of narrative juice by jumping a year.

I'd have been pissed off if it were only four months, anyway. But maybe that's just me.

Date: 2011-02-15 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com
but then the dates would work! Ish. Closer to the previous years, where they were a bit muddled, but did not require you to posit the use of a time machine for your timeline! ;)

Date: 2011-02-15 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
I don't follow your logic, but I admire your enthusiasm! :P

Anyway, I'll sort it out. ;)

Date: 2011-02-15 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Indeed. I think I'll just start working off dialog and the seasons - and if they say it's 2011, I'll just correct it to 2012 for the timeline, since I'm obviously the only one anal retentive enough to pay attention :P

But yeah, in the past, the props people have always just seemed to date things with the date that they make them - so, for instance, they dated these sheets with November, because that's when the episode was filmed...sometimes I can make it work with the timeline, but sometimes I can't. In S6, more often than not, I can't make it work.

Ah well...I still think my timeline is the most accurate - and possibly more accurate than the show. ;)

Date: 2011-02-16 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msninacat.livejournal.com
And I applaud you for that timeline dedication. I know what a pain in the ass it had to be when they started jumping times and especially when Cas started zapping them to the past. You're awesome!

Date: 2011-02-16 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Aw shucks, thanks :)

Despite my complaining, I do enjoy the work.

Date: 2011-02-15 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khek.livejournal.com
Uh...someone at the sheriff's department in Bristol, RI is date dyslexic.?

That's my theory, anyway!

Date: 2011-02-15 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Haha, maybe...sadly, it still doesn't work. I think I'll just leave it. :P

Date: 2011-02-15 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katsheswims.livejournal.com
I feel your pain. That time jump one year forward just messed things up because it seems hard for them to be consistent with everything...

Date: 2011-02-15 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm just venting. This isn't the first time they've been wildly inconsistent with dates. There were plenty of written dates that I had to ignore in S2.

I do hope the writers realize that if you are going to skip a year, you have to actually skip a year.

time line

Date: 2011-02-15 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cappy712.livejournal.com
I have to agree that the time line jump has been confusing for those of us who are anal retentive I noticed in the ep "You Can't Handle The Truth" that the calendar on the wall of the girls apartment said October 2010 instead of 2011. that was only one of the thing that I noticed was off but again it's the props department not checking carefully with the scripts.

Re: time line

Date: 2011-02-15 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yes...there's no evidence yet whether the writers are also confused, so I still have my hopes pinned on them. But, the props department definitely needed to get a memo at the start of the year.

And yeah, I noticed the calendar in You Can't Handle the Truth too. Luckily, at least the month made sense - in this episode the month doesn't make any sense either.

Date: 2011-02-15 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] risenshine22.livejournal.com
Just wanted to tell you that I actually sent them the calendar and maybe some! of them are now aware that they skipped a year. (Those persons who printed my order must have thought I'm completey nuts ordering a 2012 calender at the end of 2010 *grin*)
They do a lot of missing persons sheet on the show? Yep - and everytime they have to check if there's no person with that name acutally living in that city or State - or, if they use names and pics from the crew, they need their consent. So obviously there's not enough time to check on the dates. Maybe they used stuff (or text boxes) from sheets they used or prepared for earlier episodes?!?
Or they work in a Mystery Spot - where the laws of time have no meaning ;)

Date: 2011-02-15 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Or they work in a Mystery Spot - where the laws of time have no meaning ;)

LOL, I'm totally going with this option ;)

And thank you for sending a calendar! Maybe eventually, someone will work out what the correct date should be...until then, I'll just have to keep rolling my eyes.

But yes, there's a lot of work that goes into those missing person reports - plus they are only on the screen for a flash of a moment, so it makes sense that they'd ignore the little details in favour of just getting things done! I'm sure they have a lot to do after all!

Date: 2011-02-16 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com
After reading a few of the recent recaps I think the writers are trying to kill you, too. There were a few moments of "Sam gets informed of pop culture happenings over the last year.." (kind of like Dean and the Indiana Jones movie) but they're now's last year, if that makes sense.

Date: 2011-02-16 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm not sure when all that stuff with Mel Gibson happened...as long as it's after May 2010, I'll be happy. But I have a sneaking suspicion that the writers ARE trying to kill me too.

Date: 2011-02-16 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com
Okay....that one may have just squeaked through. I see a lot of AVclub articles on the subject in July 2010.

But still, it was a random reference for them to make because I'm pretty sure any notion that Mel Gibson is not an asshole died a couple of years ago with all that anti-antisemitism and drunk driving or whatever it was.

From now on though, I'm going to watch carefully for proof the writers are feeling hells_half_acre-cidal.
Edited Date: 2011-02-16 06:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-02-16 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hells-half-acre.livejournal.com
Thanks...let me know if they are...I can prepare myself accordingly :P

And yeah, I thought the same thing about Mel Gibson. Pretty sure all that foofaraw started back when Passion of the Christ was in theatres...which was a LONG time ago. Still, not like I follow celebrity gossip, so what do I know.


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