I am totally, totally with you on the murder porn. Hot damn.
And on everything you said about the funeral scene. And definitely, yes, what you said about Kevin and Charlie’s deaths and why they stick out so much…
I have no idea why they didn’t call Cas in. I mean, yeah, okay, we don’t want to leave Rowena unsupervised, but…I would think that resurrecting friend outranks guarding witch on the priority scale. It makes no sense!
Okay, trying not to think too hard about the plot hole…
I did love how obviously Sam was conflicted about ‘I should stop because I’ve already gotten one person I love killed but SO FREAKING CLOSE and this is kind of sort of her dying wish and—ffffff okay, we’re doing this.’ Just…very good facial expressions and visible struggle there.
I really love Rowena playing peanut gallery. “I do love a good intrigue!”
Poor, poor Baby Styne. We hardly knew ye. And now that you mention it, those parallels are awesome, and make the focus on him a little more than ‘here’s a sacrificial lamb to show just how far off the deep end Dean’s gone.’ So I very much appreciate them, and I’m glad you pointed them out.
I’m pretty sure you’re right about how the wards on the bunker work…maybe it’s like vampires on Buffy, where once they’ve been invited in once they have total access until the place is purified/the threshold/wards renewed/rebuilt…
It is kind of interesting, though, that Gadreel was able to access the bunker in his other vessel, when the bartender had never been there before. So, it’s obviously not necessarily tied to a physical body, but to something metaphysical. Which means that any possessing entity that has been in the bunker can enter regardless of meatsuit, which could be all kinds of fun in the future, I’m sure—also, I wonder if it plays in reverse, too, if Gadreel’s bartender or Jimmy, if either came back from the dead and had sole custody of his body, could enter without his angel…or if an entity who had never been there before, like…I dunno, Meg (I know she’s dead, but basically all the convenient examples are) could gain access by possessing…because everyone else I can think of is dead or already possessed, Linda Tran.
…I pick the weirdest details to overthink…
“I kill gods” was SUPER AWESOME, yes.
Crowley going full-on villain again was GLORIOUS. I love Crowley Triumphant, so…yes. Crowley’s victory/whatever you want to call it here pleased me very much.
And, yes, echoing everything you said about Sam and mercy—I think it’s because, by and large, he’s the most forgiving forgiver to ever forgive, but showing that there are some people even he can’t/won’t forgive…it emphasizes both the antagonist’s evil and Sam’s other merciful acts, I think. Basically, Beware the Nice Ones is an awesome trope and I love when Sam shows evidence of it. And especially in a scene like this, where Crowley twists the whole ‘mercy’ construct on its head, with that whole “I want you to know that the only reason you’re still alive is because I chose to spare you.” and just. I love this scene. So much.
I agree with basically everything you’re saying about the Dean half of this episode, both with the Shreveport stuff and then back in the bunker and all its implications.
Cas’s speech was amazing, yes. For all the reasons you said. And I really like that the parallel with Goodbye, Stranger was obviously there, but they did it subtly…sometimes, this show can get a little heavy-handed with parallels so it was nice that they didn’t overtly mention it, didn’t explicitly reference any dialogue, just…it was there.
Yesss the promo made me happy. I know it will end in tears but considering the guest star I can’t help but look forward to it anyway…though I do feel like there’s a lot that needs to be fit in somehow…like all the obvious stuff, plus whoever Crowley was reaching out to regarding Rowena last week, plus Metatron and the demon tablet (unless he died of gangrene or something because really you should not put your fingers in an untreated gunshot wound you are human now…eh, he’s probably smart enough to take himself to a hospital once he sigiled himself so Cas couldn’t track him). Anyway. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out next week!
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Date: 2015-05-14 10:16 pm (UTC)And on everything you said about the funeral scene. And definitely, yes, what you said about Kevin and Charlie’s deaths and why they stick out so much…
I have no idea why they didn’t call Cas in. I mean, yeah, okay, we don’t want to leave Rowena unsupervised, but…I would think that resurrecting friend outranks guarding witch on the priority scale. It makes no sense!
Okay, trying not to think too hard about the plot hole…
I did love how obviously Sam was conflicted about ‘I should stop because I’ve already gotten one person I love killed but SO FREAKING CLOSE and this is kind of sort of her dying wish and—ffffff okay, we’re doing this.’ Just…very good facial expressions and visible struggle there.
I really love Rowena playing peanut gallery. “I do love a good intrigue!”
Poor, poor Baby Styne. We hardly knew ye. And now that you mention it, those parallels are awesome, and make the focus on him a little more than ‘here’s a sacrificial lamb to show just how far off the deep end Dean’s gone.’ So I very much appreciate them, and I’m glad you pointed them out.
I’m pretty sure you’re right about how the wards on the bunker work…maybe it’s like vampires on Buffy, where once they’ve been invited in once they have total access until the place is purified/the threshold/wards renewed/rebuilt…
It is kind of interesting, though, that Gadreel was able to access the bunker in his other vessel, when the bartender had never been there before. So, it’s obviously not necessarily tied to a physical body, but to something metaphysical. Which means that any possessing entity that has been in the bunker can enter regardless of meatsuit, which could be all kinds of fun in the future, I’m sure—also, I wonder if it plays in reverse, too, if Gadreel’s bartender or Jimmy, if either came back from the dead and had sole custody of his body, could enter without his angel…or if an entity who had never been there before, like…I dunno, Meg (I know she’s dead, but basically all the convenient examples are) could gain access by possessing…because everyone else I can think of is dead or already possessed, Linda Tran.
…I pick the weirdest details to overthink…
“I kill gods” was SUPER AWESOME, yes.
Crowley going full-on villain again was GLORIOUS. I love Crowley Triumphant, so…yes. Crowley’s victory/whatever you want to call it here pleased me very much.
And, yes, echoing everything you said about Sam and mercy—I think it’s because, by and large, he’s the most forgiving forgiver to ever forgive, but showing that there are some people even he can’t/won’t forgive…it emphasizes both the antagonist’s evil and Sam’s other merciful acts, I think. Basically, Beware the Nice Ones is an awesome trope and I love when Sam shows evidence of it. And especially in a scene like this, where Crowley twists the whole ‘mercy’ construct on its head, with that whole “I want you to know that the only reason you’re still alive is because I chose to spare you.” and just. I love this scene. So much.
I agree with basically everything you’re saying about the Dean half of this episode, both with the Shreveport stuff and then back in the bunker and all its implications.
Cas’s speech was amazing, yes. For all the reasons you said. And I really like that the parallel with Goodbye, Stranger was obviously there, but they did it subtly…sometimes, this show can get a little heavy-handed with parallels so it was nice that they didn’t overtly mention it, didn’t explicitly reference any dialogue, just…it was there.
Yesss the promo made me happy. I know it will end in tears but considering the guest star I can’t help but look forward to it anyway…though I do feel like there’s a lot that needs to be fit in somehow…like all the obvious stuff, plus whoever Crowley was reaching out to regarding Rowena last week, plus Metatron and the demon tablet (unless he died of gangrene or something because really you should not put your fingers in an untreated gunshot wound you are human now…eh, he’s probably smart enough to take himself to a hospital once he sigiled himself so Cas couldn’t track him). Anyway. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out next week!