Sonny is basically the equivalent of Sam's school teacher.
Nice catch! I didn't see that!
John doesn't WANT his boys to be hunters, but they HAVE to be, therefore John can't let them be otherwise
That is what I see as the explanation for the way John raised them...that and his obsessive revenge-for-Mary mindset blinding him to seeing what his was doing to his boys...
Dean on being a mechanic: It's the dream job of a kid who desperately wants problems he can solve and responsibilities that END.
Exactly how I heard that line!
I felt very bad about Timmy losing his action figure too. Sometimes I think the writers are deliberately trying to rip the viewers' heart out...
"Sometimes you gotta do what's best for you, even if it's going to hurt the ones you love."
Interesting, we heard that totally differently! For some reason I thought Dean was being a hypocrite here, my reaction was 'nice one, Dean, when have you ever put yourself first if it was going to hurt Sam...but now I see I got it exactly backwards, he was thinking (probably unconsciously) of being willing to let Sam be possessed because Dean needed him to live. This is why I love reading your analyses and appreciate that it took you 2 days to do it!
And pointing out that this is the kind of ghost Dean would have become if he had become one in 'In my Time of Dying'--scary but likely and never occurred to me...
"I am lying and we both know, but it is for the best that we pretend it is the truth."
The poison in the Winchester style of communicating...argh!!!
I could copy the entire paragraph about teen Dean choosing to return to Sam and the ramifications, but I won't, I will just say you have it so right!
"I have to go." And he did it with as much dignity as he could muster, while in tears and resigning himself to a life he didn't want.
Dean at his most self-sacrificing heroic even then...and also at his saddest self-sacrificing...the eternal paradox of why we love and weep for this character in a nutshell...
I am in agreement with you about the canon 'goofs' and out-of-character bits the writers shoved in to manipulate the story...Dean should have been 14, not 16. And Sam, no matter what his age, would NEVER have accepted 'Dean got lost on a hunt!' IDK why they used that line when there were half a billion more believable ways for John to have explained Dean's absence! I HATE when the writers' put in a throw-away line without thinking of how it impacts canon! (Riding donkeys in the Grand Canyon, anyone?!?)
Oh yeah, and an ex-con getting to run a boys' reform school...yeah, ain't really gonna happen unless he had political connections in high enough places to get his background overlooked...
So I get a review of the current episode from you tonight :)
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Date: 2014-10-14 08:17 am (UTC)Sonny is basically the equivalent of Sam's school teacher.
Nice catch! I didn't see that!
John doesn't WANT his boys to be hunters, but they HAVE to be, therefore John can't let them be otherwise
That is what I see as the explanation for the way John raised them...that and his obsessive revenge-for-Mary mindset blinding him to seeing what his was doing to his boys...
Dean on being a mechanic: It's the dream job of a kid who desperately wants problems he can solve and responsibilities that END.
Exactly how I heard that line!
I felt very bad about Timmy losing his action figure too. Sometimes I think the writers are deliberately trying to rip the viewers' heart out...
"Sometimes you gotta do what's best for you, even if it's going to hurt the ones you love."
Interesting, we heard that totally differently! For some reason I thought Dean was being a hypocrite here, my reaction was 'nice one, Dean, when have you ever put yourself first if it was going to hurt Sam...but now I see I got it exactly backwards, he was thinking (probably unconsciously) of being willing to let Sam be possessed because Dean needed him to live. This is why I love reading your analyses and appreciate that it took you 2 days to do it!
And pointing out that this is the kind of ghost Dean would have become if he had become one in 'In my Time of Dying'--scary but likely and never occurred to me...
"I am lying and we both know, but it is for the best that we pretend it is the truth."
The poison in the Winchester style of communicating...argh!!!
I could copy the entire paragraph about teen Dean choosing to return to Sam and the ramifications, but I won't, I will just say you have it so right!
"I have to go." And he did it with as much dignity as he could muster, while in tears and resigning himself to a life he didn't want.
Dean at his most self-sacrificing heroic even then...and also at his saddest self-sacrificing...the eternal paradox of why we love and weep for this character in a nutshell...
I am in agreement with you about the canon 'goofs' and out-of-character bits the writers shoved in to manipulate the story...Dean should have been 14, not 16. And Sam, no matter what his age, would NEVER have accepted 'Dean got lost on a hunt!' IDK why they used that line when there were half a billion more believable ways for John to have explained Dean's absence! I HATE when the writers' put in a throw-away line without thinking of how it impacts canon! (Riding donkeys in the Grand Canyon, anyone?!?)
Oh yeah, and an ex-con getting to run a boys' reform school...yeah, ain't really gonna happen unless he had political connections in high enough places to get his background overlooked...
So I get a review of the current episode from you tonight :)