A thought provoking discussion. Thank you for sharing it. I admit I am in the "like to see these two male characters together because I enjoy seeing these two attractive characters together with fun characterizations" but I have gotten tired of the "penetrative sex is the only real sex" and the overwhelming number of male/male pairings in a fic because that is realistic. There are a few stories it bothers me less with how rich the plot and characters are but yeah, I never realized how mimicking heteronormative it all was. I recall only one story in all my reading where two male characters did not have penetrative sex and it was qualified by each of the two characters had been physically and emotionally damaged by such sex so they had to find alternatives.
I also must be in the wrong fandoms because I have no clue about the activism. My first thought was what? That is so far removed from fanfiction, I am stunned.
To your discussion about villains, I wobble because I like that Loki is not as bad as all that but upon rewatching Avengers and Thor 2, I start to see that MCU Loki goes beyond being a trickster and poorly understood character into the arena of malicious god who deliberate attempts to cause pain that has me reconsidering my stance. (I'm still looking forward to watching Thor 3.) Let's just say, I read less Loki fic than I used to. Villains as portrayed in film and TV tend to be of the evil, unredeeming variety, and it's easy to dismiss them. In real life, there is ambiguity and nuance and "he was such a nice guy" as quoted by many neighbors of said evil person. I know I am capable of evil acts and I consider myself a good person. Just my two cents in the discussion.
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Date: 2014-06-15 12:12 pm (UTC)I also must be in the wrong fandoms because I have no clue about the activism. My first thought was what? That is so far removed from fanfiction, I am stunned.
To your discussion about villains, I wobble because I like that Loki is not as bad as all that but upon rewatching Avengers and Thor 2, I start to see that MCU Loki goes beyond being a trickster and poorly understood character into the arena of malicious god who deliberate attempts to cause pain that has me reconsidering my stance. (I'm still looking forward to watching Thor 3.) Let's just say, I read less Loki fic than I used to. Villains as portrayed in film and TV tend to be of the evil, unredeeming variety, and it's easy to dismiss them. In real life, there is ambiguity and nuance and "he was such a nice guy" as quoted by many neighbors of said evil person. I know I am capable of evil acts and I consider myself a good person. Just my two cents in the discussion.