Tumblr really is horrible for discussion, and since it's primarily a site for pretty pictures, I often skip long discussion posts as well - so yeah, no worries about not reading this discussion as it was happening!
Thanks for the comm rec! I've add it to my "feed" page or whatever the heck it's called now.
It's true that there IS an evolution when it comes to fandom - and I'm sure if I went back to some of the stuff that I read while I was in the Naruto fandom, I'd be appalled with myself... but then again, as you say, that was the fandom standard. The fandom I started with, Due South, actually had a pretty high standard, which is probably why I'm a little more cheesed off about this kind of stuff than your average bear.
I guess the thing is that I would be a little more forgiving, if I pictured all these authors as 15 year-olds who just don't know any better - but then as soon as that image gets disturbed, you're like "wait, you're an adult? You have no excuse then!" :P
I think Clint/Coulson reads as incest to me too. That really is a good comparison for the level of squick that I feel at the thought of it.
And sometimes I feel the whole argument is terrible because a lot of people are shouting and a lot less are actually listening [...] And sometimes I feel the whole argument is terrible because a lot of people are shouting and a lot less are actually listening.
I forget what I was watching/listening to the other day - but they described commenting on something on the internet as opening a door and shouting into a room that is filled with people who are shouting.
I don't want to come on it to find that people's whose opinion's I might otherwise agree with seems to think I'm worth less because I happen to be part of the majority.
Yeah, there's that about it. I have a few people on my tumblr who like to reblog things that hate on cisgendered white people... I kind of just picture them as, and this is kind of horrible, but I find it helps if I picture them as abused kids who finally escape the house and the first thing they do is punch someone - it's not about the person they punched, it's about the fact that they can't punch the people that they actually want to punch. And the same goes for opinions - if they have to make my opinion worth less than theirs because they've been around someone all day that kind of looked like me who acted like their opinion was worth MORE, than that's understandable - but I've still put my opinion out there, and maybe it gets heard and maybe it doesn't, but that's really life in general.
Basically, I can search through AO3 and almost not see all that stuff I don't want to. I can do it with tumblr and LJ too - it's how I got by without tumblr saviour for so long.
Yeah, I can't really do that. My compensation is to just be absolutely brutal with the "unfollow" button - but when it comes to wading through fic on Ao3, I just end up getting frustrated because I can't narrow it down enough.
But, as you point out, AO3 is still in beta - so it may still improve, though it's been the same for many years now.
Yes to everything you said about Loki.
Missing the point is sort of where the internet lives.
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Date: 2014-06-14 11:43 pm (UTC)Thanks for the comm rec! I've add it to my "feed" page or whatever the heck it's called now.
It's true that there IS an evolution when it comes to fandom - and I'm sure if I went back to some of the stuff that I read while I was in the Naruto fandom, I'd be appalled with myself... but then again, as you say, that was the fandom standard. The fandom I started with, Due South, actually had a pretty high standard, which is probably why I'm a little more cheesed off about this kind of stuff than your average bear.
I guess the thing is that I would be a little more forgiving, if I pictured all these authors as 15 year-olds who just don't know any better - but then as soon as that image gets disturbed, you're like "wait, you're an adult? You have no excuse then!" :P
I think Clint/Coulson reads as incest to me too. That really is a good comparison for the level of squick that I feel at the thought of it.
And sometimes I feel the whole argument is terrible because a lot of people are shouting and a lot less are actually listening [...] And sometimes I feel the whole argument is terrible because a lot of people are shouting and a lot less are actually listening.
I forget what I was watching/listening to the other day - but they described commenting on something on the internet as opening a door and shouting into a room that is filled with people who are shouting.
I don't want to come on it to find that people's whose opinion's I might otherwise agree with seems to think I'm worth less because I happen to be part of the majority.
Yeah, there's that about it. I have a few people on my tumblr who like to reblog things that hate on cisgendered white people... I kind of just picture them as, and this is kind of horrible, but I find it helps if I picture them as abused kids who finally escape the house and the first thing they do is punch someone - it's not about the person they punched, it's about the fact that they can't punch the people that they actually want to punch. And the same goes for opinions - if they have to make my opinion worth less than theirs because they've been around someone all day that kind of looked like me who acted like their opinion was worth MORE, than that's understandable - but I've still put my opinion out there, and maybe it gets heard and maybe it doesn't, but that's really life in general.
Basically, I can search through AO3 and almost not see all that stuff I don't want to. I can do it with tumblr and LJ too - it's how I got by without tumblr saviour for so long.
Yeah, I can't really do that. My compensation is to just be absolutely brutal with the "unfollow" button - but when it comes to wading through fic on Ao3, I just end up getting frustrated because I can't narrow it down enough.
But, as you point out, AO3 is still in beta - so it may still improve, though it's been the same for many years now.
Yes to everything you said about Loki.
Missing the point is sort of where the internet lives.
Haha, this should be the internet's slogan. :P