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I completely agree about Peggy in the first movie! You've pinpointed exactly what I couldn't quite put into words. I just thought we needed more time with her to care about her, but I realize now that caring about her wasn't helped by the fact that she really is more of a formula/trope in that movie rather than a fully dimensional, relate-able, and important character.
It's nice that some people had a different experience than we did, of course, but yeah, I think my feelings on her run closer to yours.
instead of getting a movie about a guy trying to adjust to suddenly being much taller and having body dysmorphia while struggling with his ideals in a time of war, it turned into something that felt like watching someone else play a video game.
Yes! Exactly! I actually just posted a couple of more thoughts on the Winter Soldier, and one of them is the fact that I like the little part in the movie where it's implied that no one actually knows what Steve is capable of - not even Steve. And that would have been SUCH a fun dynamic to play with along with exploring what it's like for people who hold high ideals about war to actually find themselves in the realities of war. The premise was such a RICH playground and yet we never got to play. It was a summary, not a story.
a politician, confronted with the perfect physical specimen that is the world's only supersoldier, immediately goes, "YES, let's get this guy on stage, he's going to sell the crap out of some bonds".
I loved that bit too. And I needed that, because it was with that bit where I was realized that the Captain America movies weren't going to be the patriotic hot air that the name implied to me, instead they were going to be the opposite.
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Date: 2014-05-16 12:18 am (UTC)And I yours!
I completely agree about Peggy in the first movie! You've pinpointed exactly what I couldn't quite put into words. I just thought we needed more time with her to care about her, but I realize now that caring about her wasn't helped by the fact that she really is more of a formula/trope in that movie rather than a fully dimensional, relate-able, and important character.
It's nice that some people had a different experience than we did, of course, but yeah, I think my feelings on her run closer to yours.
instead of getting a movie about a guy trying to adjust to suddenly being much taller and having body dysmorphia while struggling with his ideals in a time of war, it turned into something that felt like watching someone else play a video game.
Yes! Exactly! I actually just posted a couple of more thoughts on the Winter Soldier, and one of them is the fact that I like the little part in the movie where it's implied that no one actually knows what Steve is capable of - not even Steve. And that would have been SUCH a fun dynamic to play with along with exploring what it's like for people who hold high ideals about war to actually find themselves in the realities of war. The premise was such a RICH playground and yet we never got to play. It was a summary, not a story.
a politician, confronted with the perfect physical specimen that is the world's only supersoldier, immediately goes, "YES, let's get this guy on stage, he's going to sell the crap out of some bonds".
I loved that bit too. And I needed that, because it was with that bit where I was realized that the Captain America movies weren't going to be the patriotic hot air that the name implied to me, instead they were going to be the opposite.