Is Sam right to blame Dean for his own survivor's guilt?
Oh, good question and good point. If it's survivor's guilt that is making him lash out (and I think it partly is), then no, he is not right. You can't blame someone else for feeling guilty. He could blame Dean for Kevin's death and he would be right - but he doesn't, he blames himself. Weird cycle.
So, seeing as they are not on the same page here, this can't be the base for them to mend. They need to start at equal footing, and not with one of them saying "A" and the other understanding "Z". On the other hand... from this point, it can hardly get any worse...
I'm not hating Sam. I agree with what he didn't say - but I don't think he was right to leave the real meaning behind his words out. I think he's still bitter (understandable), and I think they shouldn't have started to work together again. There's still too much hurt in Sam, and he's doling that out towards Dean. Unintentionally, maybe, but I think he's smart enough to know that his words as they were are NOTHING but a kick in the teeth. And so I'm sorry to say that he probably wanted them to be.
BUT: it's human to be mean and petty and angry and hurt and emotionally in a bad place. And I get Sam more now than I ever got him in other seasons, and while I want ghostBobby come and shake him up good, I like that he's being mean now.
Thinking of Bobby: Dean was once prepared to let Sam die. He was prepared for Sam's death when Sam was detoxing, saying that his life wasn't worth more than Sam's soul. Bobby wanted to use Sam's abilities, but Dean wouldn't hear any of it.
And he'd have stopped fighting and just let Sam do what he wanted to do, back when it was Ruby who had him in his claws. Bobby read him the riot act then, and in that weird room with Zacharia, Dean chose to fight for Sam anyway. Sam doesn't know all this because he wasn't present, but I'm just saying that if Dean hasn't changed into an even more messed up person, there ARE limits for him. Maybe not anymore when there is no heaven... Hm.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. I can't wait for the stupid winter-olympics to be over.
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Date: 2014-02-05 07:12 pm (UTC)Is Sam right to blame Dean for his own survivor's guilt?
Oh, good question and good point. If it's survivor's guilt that is making him lash out (and I think it partly is), then no, he is not right. You can't blame someone else for feeling guilty. He could blame Dean for Kevin's death and he would be right - but he doesn't, he blames himself. Weird cycle.
So, seeing as they are not on the same page here, this can't be the base for them to mend. They need to start at equal footing, and not with one of them saying "A" and the other understanding "Z".
On the other hand... from this point, it can hardly get any worse...
I'm not hating Sam. I agree with what he didn't say - but I don't think he was right to leave the real meaning behind his words out. I think he's still bitter (understandable), and I think they shouldn't have started to work together again. There's still too much hurt in Sam, and he's doling that out towards Dean. Unintentionally, maybe, but I think he's smart enough to know that his words as they were are NOTHING but a kick in the teeth. And so I'm sorry to say that he probably wanted them to be.
BUT: it's human to be mean and petty and angry and hurt and emotionally in a bad place. And I get Sam more now than I ever got him in other seasons, and while I want ghostBobby come and shake him up good, I like that he's being mean now.
Thinking of Bobby: Dean was once prepared to let Sam die. He was prepared for Sam's death when Sam was detoxing, saying that his life wasn't worth more than Sam's soul. Bobby wanted to use Sam's abilities, but Dean wouldn't hear any of it.
And he'd have stopped fighting and just let Sam do what he wanted to do, back when it was Ruby who had him in his claws. Bobby read him the riot act then, and in that weird room with Zacharia, Dean chose to fight for Sam anyway.
Sam doesn't know all this because he wasn't present, but I'm just saying that if Dean hasn't changed into an even more messed up person, there ARE limits for him. Maybe not anymore when there is no heaven... Hm.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. I can't wait for the stupid winter-olympics to be over.