Pretty heavy episode - but there were some funny scenes aye? Cas with "I am a celestial being..." *ha!* I really enjoyed your comments as usual but I see some parts of this episode a little differently and I have to get it off my chest. I hope you can bear with me.
Meg: "I miss the simplicity. I was bad, you were good, life was easier. Now it's all so messy. I'm kind of good which sucks and you're kinda bad, which is actually all manner of hot. We survive this, I'm going to order some pizza and we're going to move some furniture around, you understand?"
This quote is to me one of the most important things said in this whole episode. It's true, when we think back to that evil Meg from Seasons 1 and 2, it is hard to imagine any feelings of love or kindness from her. That was Meg before the apocalypse. Now she is "kind of good." She has changed since the apocalypse from an all bad demon, to a partly good demon. Why? How? And this is where I base my belief that there are other ways to cure demons than that found by the preacher. Maybe being close to Cas gave her some opposing energy - just like the purified blood did to Crowley. I believe Meg was half cured because of it.
Now, I know that you do not believe that Meg and Cas actually had a thing for each other. But your explanation of Meg symbolizing freedom for Cas etc. doesn't really cut it for me. I don't think the writers expect us to think that that was ALL it was. Taken at face value, all those little lines, like Meg's "Why are you so sweet on me, Clarence?" and his honest answer, "I don't know." or "It's a good memory" and their gazing into each other's eyes(and Sam and Dean leaving them be)... Cas arguing with Naomi that they don't have to kill Meg - seems to me to show his affection for her as does his telling Sam to protect her. I also do not think it strange that they might have a physical attraction to each other either. There have been numerous other instances where we saw demons interested in the physical and we know angels have coupled with humans too.
Speaking of symbolism... I was thinking about what unicorns symbolize. As you know well, Sam believed in unicorns as he believed in angels and was very disappointed when Dean told him they didn't. I think Meg knew this, from her time inside him. In lore, unicorns symbolize purity the most it seems. I feel that between Meg and Sam, Sam's unicorn is Sam's light at the end of the tunnel or normal life, which Amelia personifies. That is what they are talking about here aye? Sam wanting to live life away from demons like Meg and such (maybe in a way this is also about Sam's purification as well. His being rid of demon blood.) This goes along with your thoughts on Amelia. Meg's unicorn, Cas, is also the dream of something better. He personifies purity, goodness and hope(and maybe Meg being cured completely?). The evil Meg would not have thought this, but the good/evil conflicted Meg I think has begun to hope for something better. Redemption and maybe happiness after they "get through this."
And THIS is something she is willing to die for. There was nothing until now. It was all about how to survive. Now, she's found something worth it. In the beginning of her conversation with Sam, she asks him "Whatever it is, you okay dying over it?" For me, this, combined with her talk of unicorns and telling Sam to go protect her unicorn, and how she actually dies preventing Crowley from getting to Cas makes it all real. Her half-goodness. Her affection for Cas and her willingness to die to protect him and what he stands for.
I weep for Meg. For her half goodness and her hope for something better.
On a side note, I believe sacrifice is a key theme of Season 8 - not just by Sam but by Dean/Benny, and also by Meg. What is worth dying over? That's the big question aye?
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Date: 2014-01-20 11:42 am (UTC)Cas with "I am a celestial being..." *ha!* I really enjoyed your comments as usual but I see some parts of this episode a little differently and I have to get it off my chest. I hope you can bear with me.
Meg: "I miss the simplicity. I was bad, you were good, life was easier. Now it's all so messy. I'm kind of good which sucks and you're kinda bad, which is actually all manner of hot. We survive this, I'm going to order some pizza and we're going to move some furniture around, you understand?"
This quote is to me one of the most important things said in this whole episode. It's true, when we think back to that evil Meg from Seasons 1 and 2, it is hard to imagine any feelings of love or kindness from her. That was Meg before the apocalypse. Now she is "kind of good." She has changed since the apocalypse from an all bad demon, to a partly good demon. Why? How? And this is where I base my belief that there are other ways to cure demons than that found by the preacher. Maybe being close to Cas gave her some opposing energy - just like the purified blood did to Crowley. I believe Meg was half cured because of it.
Now, I know that you do not believe that Meg and Cas actually had a thing for each other. But your explanation of Meg symbolizing freedom for Cas etc. doesn't really cut it for me. I don't think the writers expect us to think that that was ALL it was. Taken at face value, all those little lines, like Meg's "Why are you so sweet on me, Clarence?" and his honest answer, "I don't know." or "It's a good memory" and their gazing into each other's eyes(and Sam and Dean leaving them be)... Cas arguing with Naomi that they don't have to kill Meg - seems to me to show his affection for her as does his telling Sam to protect her. I also do not think it strange that they might have a physical attraction to each other either. There have been numerous other instances where we saw demons interested in the physical and we know angels have coupled with humans too.
Speaking of symbolism... I was thinking about what unicorns symbolize. As you know well, Sam believed in unicorns as he believed in angels and was very disappointed when Dean told him they didn't. I think Meg knew this, from her time inside him. In lore, unicorns symbolize purity the most it seems. I feel that between Meg and Sam, Sam's unicorn is Sam's light at the end of the tunnel or normal life, which Amelia personifies. That is what they are talking about here aye? Sam wanting to live life away from demons like Meg and such (maybe in a way this is also about Sam's purification as well. His being rid of demon blood.) This goes along with your thoughts on Amelia. Meg's unicorn, Cas, is also the dream of something better. He personifies purity, goodness and hope(and maybe Meg being cured completely?). The evil Meg would not have thought this, but the good/evil conflicted Meg I think has begun to hope for something better. Redemption and maybe happiness after they "get through this."
And THIS is something she is willing to die for. There was nothing until now. It was all about how to survive. Now, she's found something worth it. In the beginning of her conversation with Sam, she asks him "Whatever it is, you okay dying over it?" For me, this, combined with her talk of unicorns and telling Sam to go protect her unicorn, and how she actually dies preventing Crowley from getting to Cas makes it all real. Her half-goodness. Her affection for Cas and her willingness to die to protect him and what he stands for.
I weep for Meg. For her half goodness and her hope for something better.
On a side note, I believe sacrifice is a key theme of Season 8 - not just by Sam but by Dean/Benny, and also by Meg. What is worth dying over? That's the big question aye?