Hi! I've never visited your lj before (how did I miss it?), so you don't know me yet.
I really liked your ideas about Castiel, even if I don't agree with everything. (I mean, I've liked the character from the get-go. But more as a person who is there for Dean and his relationship/dynamics with Dean than, you know, the actor Misha Collins.)
The only scene I can remember that's like what you were saying about Dean crying for Castiel is in When The Levee Breaks, when Dean's out in Bobby's yard. He says, Well, it's about time. I've been screaming myself hoarse out here for about two and a half hours now. I don't recall a scene like that in season 6. On the contrary, when Dean prays for Castiel in The Third Man it seemed to me like it was actually the first time he'd tried it since Sam went to hell.
And Castiel, I think, did care about Dean in that year. He nearly went and talked to him about his problems in heaven but then decided he didn't want to burden Dean with that. Wrong call, as it turned out. But then, like you pointed out, Castiel is basically a five-year-old where experience in making his own decisions and thinking for himself is concerned.
I'd be fine if Dean still was sentimental and WANTED to have a friendship with Castiel, but in my opinion, Dean doesn't need to apologize for anything.
I agree, and I didn't get the impression that Castiel feels Dean owes him an apology. Just before they opened purgatory, Castiel says, I'm ashamed. I really overreached and I'm gonna find some way to redeem myself to you.
Plus, I agree that Dean must be one of the most forgiving people ever. In The Man Who Would Be King he says you are like a brother to me. And if that isn't one of the biggest evidences of trust and love from Dean's side, then I don't know. And, yeah, he did forgive Sam for letting him down when he needed him most. It took a while but it happened.
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Date: 2012-01-25 09:55 pm (UTC)I really liked your ideas about Castiel, even if I don't agree with everything. (I mean, I've liked the character from the get-go. But more as a person who is there for Dean and his relationship/dynamics with Dean than, you know, the actor Misha Collins.)
The only scene I can remember that's like what you were saying about Dean crying for Castiel is in When The Levee Breaks, when Dean's out in Bobby's yard. He says, Well, it's about time. I've been screaming myself hoarse out here for about two and a half hours now. I don't recall a scene like that in season 6. On the contrary, when Dean prays for Castiel in The Third Man it seemed to me like it was actually the first time he'd tried it since Sam went to hell.
And Castiel, I think, did care about Dean in that year. He nearly went and talked to him about his problems in heaven but then decided he didn't want to burden Dean with that. Wrong call, as it turned out. But then, like you pointed out, Castiel is basically a five-year-old where experience in making his own decisions and thinking for himself is concerned.
I'd be fine if Dean still was sentimental and WANTED to have a friendship with Castiel, but in my opinion, Dean doesn't need to apologize for anything.
I agree, and I didn't get the impression that Castiel feels Dean owes him an apology. Just before they opened purgatory, Castiel says, I'm ashamed. I really overreached and I'm gonna find some way to redeem myself to you.
Plus, I agree that Dean must be one of the most forgiving people ever. In The Man Who Would Be King he says you are like a brother to me. And if that isn't one of the biggest evidences of trust and love from Dean's side, then I don't know. And, yeah, he did forgive Sam for letting him down when he needed him most. It took a while but it happened.