They don't find out until John calls in Scarecrow.
Hmm, good point. I have memory issues and I haven't done a re-watch in awhile, I just figured the writers were being vague until they could decide what it was. But okay.
You can see why Sam would grow tired of a quest for revenge against something so vague and unknown...how could he ever hope for it to be over when they had absolutely no clue as to what it was?
True that. Not to mention the constant danger and injuries. (I'm always surprised [except in 4x01] that the makeup people don't add scars to the boys' bodies when they're shown shirtless.) Though in...I don't remember which episode it is, the one where Sam is all "this is why I left," I think a big part of it is also being sick of basically being John's subordinate/minion. He seems to do better, and even find hunting somewhat fulfilling, with Dean, since while Dean tends to have the final say in things they're still more or less equals.
Dean says that demons are way above their "pay grade"
Yep, seeing that now. I stand corrected. I'm watching "Phantom Traveler" now and Sam is just researching demon lore. (But Dean does know the meaning of Christo. Maybe they did learn some Latin anyway.)
I'm guessing John kept them on relatively simple hunts when they were kids - ghosts, poltergeists, banshees, etc. The most complicated things they hunted pre-series that I can find are werewolves and skinwalkers.
Probably, though in the (okay, notoriously unreliable) John Winchester's Journal it harps on how "a hunter never turns down a hunt." And (this is just my reading of John) I tend to wonder how much he worries about his kids since he's leaving them alone a lot (even when they were really young, like in the flashbacks of the Shtriga episode), and all Sam's comments about John's drinking in the Pilot. I mean, it's clear he cares about his boys, and he doesn't want to lose them, but he still takes them and/or sends them on dangerous jobs like the Wendigo one. Complicated guy.
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Date: 2012-08-22 08:45 am (UTC)Hmm, good point. I have memory issues and I haven't done a re-watch in awhile, I just figured the writers were being vague until they could decide what it was. But okay.
You can see why Sam would grow tired of a quest for revenge against something so vague and unknown...how could he ever hope for it to be over when they had absolutely no clue as to what it was?
True that. Not to mention the constant danger and injuries. (I'm always surprised [except in 4x01] that the makeup people don't add scars to the boys' bodies when they're shown shirtless.) Though in...I don't remember which episode it is, the one where Sam is all "this is why I left," I think a big part of it is also being sick of basically being John's subordinate/minion. He seems to do better, and even find hunting somewhat fulfilling, with Dean, since while Dean tends to have the final say in things they're still more or less equals.
Dean says that demons are way above their "pay grade"
Yep, seeing that now. I stand corrected. I'm watching "Phantom Traveler" now and Sam is just researching demon lore. (But Dean does know the meaning of Christo. Maybe they did learn some Latin anyway.)
I'm guessing John kept them on relatively simple hunts when they were kids - ghosts, poltergeists, banshees, etc. The most complicated things they hunted pre-series that I can find are werewolves and skinwalkers.
Probably, though in the (okay, notoriously unreliable) John Winchester's Journal it harps on how "a hunter never turns down a hunt." And (this is just my reading of John) I tend to wonder how much he worries about his kids since he's leaving them alone a lot (even when they were really young, like in the flashbacks of the Shtriga episode), and all Sam's comments about John's drinking in the Pilot. I mean, it's clear he cares about his boys, and he doesn't want to lose them, but he still takes them and/or sends them on dangerous jobs like the Wendigo one. Complicated guy.