Talking of rape of males, wouldn't the frat boy who got abducted and groped by an alien in Mystery Spot - the way he talked about it, sounded like sexual assault to me and I still wince when I watch that scene and how the entire assault was made into a joke.
You make a good argument about the Bechdel test and honestly, I'm not trying to placate you here :p I've only recently heard of the Bechdel test and to be honest, I feel it's a double edged sword. You can't apply it to just about any show and use it alone to judge that show. Take The Vampire Diaries for example, some episodes pass the Bechdel test but they had a very disturbing arc with Damon and Caroline (dubious consent, constant glamoring etc) but even then Damon gets off scot-free. Moving on, I don't think that just because a show/movie passes the Bechdel test, it's necessarily pro-woman - for me, a show that would be pro-woman or feminist, would be a show that has nuanced portrayals of women and women who occupy many different roles in life: good, evil, mother, lover, fighter etc - for me, Supernatural has created some truly memorable women but the limited exposure they got how those women were killed or written off, irks me more.
And yes, some women of the week were also truly badass. i was watching the Benders and I loved the cop =) And I'll never get over Cassie -_-
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Date: 2010-05-27 10:40 am (UTC)Talking of rape of males, wouldn't the frat boy who got abducted and groped by an alien in Mystery Spot - the way he talked about it, sounded like sexual assault to me and I still wince when I watch that scene and how the entire assault was made into a joke.
You make a good argument about the Bechdel test and honestly, I'm not trying to placate you here :p
I've only recently heard of the Bechdel test and to be honest, I feel it's a double edged sword. You can't apply it to just about any show and use it alone to judge that show. Take The Vampire Diaries for example, some episodes pass the Bechdel test but they had a very disturbing arc with Damon and Caroline (dubious consent, constant glamoring etc) but even then Damon gets off scot-free. Moving on, I don't think that just because a show/movie passes the Bechdel test, it's necessarily pro-woman - for me, a show that would be pro-woman or feminist, would be a show that has nuanced portrayals of women and women who occupy many different roles in life: good, evil, mother, lover, fighter etc - for me, Supernatural has created some truly memorable women but the limited exposure they got how those women were killed or written off, irks me more.
And yes, some women of the week were also truly badass. i was watching the Benders and I loved the cop =) And I'll never get over Cassie -_-