hells_half_acre: (Worried!Sam)
2018-08-01 10:11 am

One Scene Each Season: S13 - Sam and Rowena discuss Lucifer (13x12)

And I'm back! And only one day late...

For my final selection, I've selected a scene that was LONG overdue...

S13 - Sam and Rowena discuss Lucifer - 13x12 Various and Sundry Villians

ROWENA: Are you very sure I can’t just enslave some townsfolk and make them take us to the girls?
SAM: I’m very sure you can, but I’m also very sure you shouldn’t.
ROWENA: Bless your precious heart, you just described my entire life.
SAM: [turning to face Rowena in the back seat] Rowena, even if you pull off whatever plan you’re trying to pull off, and even if you manage to get the book back –
ROWENA: [interrupting] I’ve been on my best behavior.
SAM: [nods in acknowledgement] Okay, sure. Let’s say you get the book. It’s not going to change anything. You’re still going to feel helpless. What Lucifer did to you–
ROWENA: [interrupting] Told you, I don’t… [puts on a brave, solemn face] Before he crushed my skull, Lucifer showed me his face. His true face. [brave façade cracks] I’m scared, Sam. All the time.
SAM: I’ve seen it too. What he really looks like behind – behind whatever vessel. It… Yeah, still keeps me up at night.
ROWENA: How do you deal with it?
SAM: I guess I don’t deal with it. Not really. I mean, I pushed it down and, um, the world kept almost ending, so I keep pushing it down, and I don’t know. [stammering] I really don’t talk about it, not even with Dean. I mean, I could. You know, he’d listen, but… That’s not something I really know how to share.

Why I chose this scene:

It's been 8 years since Sam got out of hell (10 years if we go by "actual" time - ignoring the two "skipped/looped" years). In those 8 years, we had 2-3 in which there were consequences to Sam's time in the cage (which I estimate to be AT LEAST 160 years "hell time" - if the we assume that the cage, being in the lowest reaches of hell, goes by hell time). But, even in those 2-3 years, where there were consequences, we never really delved too much into how Sam was DEALING with it. We saw him weathering it, we saw him... as he says here...pushing it down, away, doing is best to come out ahead and keep going. But, we never actually saw him directly address it. And, fair enough, you know - you don't just ask someone who has been tortured for 160 years to talk about his feelings right away and expect that he'll want to do so.

BUT, the fact that we get a glimpse of it here - the fact that Sam acknowledges that he HASN'T DEALT WITH IT. That he hasn't talked to Dean about, that he's just pushed it down... that he doesn't KNOW HOW to talk about it. I'd have loved this conversation in S8, where I think it really should have been (because it would explain so much about how adrift and OOC Sam was after Dean's "death", beyond us just having to acknowledge it as bad writing and doing our best to build up unsubstantiated headcanons to try to make up for Carver's failing). But, whether I wanted it sooner or not, I'm VERY THANKFUL that I get it here.

And, I won't say it's better, but I DO LOVE the fact that Sam has someone who can commiserate - who, even if she hasn't had the same extreme experience, has at least caught a glimpse of what Sam lived through. As much as I would love for Sam to confide in Dean... and my sidenote here is that I LOVE the fact that Sam and Dean's relationship is healthy enough that Sam knows Dean would listen and do his best to understand/help.... I also love the fact that Sam is able to share this and open up to someone other than his brother. I mean, yes, you could argue that Dean knows what it's like to be tortured with singular focus by a single entity in Hell. Alistair was Dean's Lucifer... BUT, at the same time, Lucifer is really a whole other type of beast. So, while Dean can no doubt commiserate about the torture, Rowena is really the only one that can commiserate about Lucifer... who simply has to show his true face to strike permanent terror into the hearts of humans. 

It also humanizes Rowena... who is MUCH more compelling as a multifaceted complex morally-grey character than she ever was as a cackling manipulating villain. She's basically moving from chaotic evil, through true neutral, to chaotic good (for those of you who know D&D alignments) and that's a hell of a character arc... and the best part is that it doesn't have to end when she gets to chaotic good, because that (like we see later) leads her into exploring where her new moral boundaries lie... is she still out only for herself, or does she start including the good of the universe in her decisions?

Now, granted, you could argue that this whole conversation is a well rehearsed move on Rowena's part to gain Sam's sympathy in order to ensure that he gives her the page out of the book that she needs.... I mean, in the end, that's how it works out. BUT, maybe I'm being too kind to her, but I don't think that's the case... I think Rowena DOES have a goal of starting a conversation that will give her an excuse to leave the car. Either Sam will get mad at her and start a fight, from which she can storm off, or she knows by sharing trauma, he will allow her to get some air... but, I think the content of her words are true. And we see much later in the season that the more sympathetic bond between her and Sam remains. Rowena is too proud of herself for well laid plans not to have gloated about the manipulation if it were one, and the fact that she never throws Sam's words back in his face, to me, proves that she meant what she said and plans to honour Sam's confidence as well.

Anyway, it's a great scene with complex characters and motivations... but really, despite all I just talked about Rowena, what I love most about it is how it cracks Sam open again in relation to Lucifer... it drove me NUTS in S11 that they had Sam and Lucifer in the same scenes, and had Sam playing family-counselor to Lucifer and God, like Sam had never been tortured and Lucifer was just an old annoyance rather than Sam's worst fear/greatest source of trauma/etc.

I'd love to see it explored a little more, but I think that, with Lucifer's death (and please god, let him remain dead) we're probably never going to address it again - and this will be all I ever get. So, I may as well treasure it! 



I'm going to be disappearing for a few weeks, because I'm busy. However, I'll be back around the end of August. We still have September to get through before the show starts up again and I start up rewatches in October. SO... if you have any suggestions for something I should post in late August and September, please let me know!

hells_half_acre: (Crying Dean)
2018-05-17 10:30 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x23 Let the Good Times Roll


Oh wait, there's a whole lot I have to do before I jump too far ahead...

Firstly, as you could no doubt tell by my previous post - usual rules apply! I've been drinking! All quotes are approximate, and if you don't have anything nice to say, then just say "I don't have anything nice to say" and I will KNOW YOUR PAIN, without having every remnant of joy ground out of me.

Now to the episode....

As per usual, let me know your thoughts in comments!

I'll hopefully have the timeline posted soon, and then it's the long summer hiatus where I may just disappear for a while.

hells_half_acre: (Default)
2018-05-03 10:32 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x21 Beat the Devil


Okay, so this episode poses an interesting problem... I did not like it. BUT, rules are still rules around here, so I gotta focus on what I DID like when I write this sucker up, and same goes for you when commenting!

Also, same old situation - drinking when I watched this and watched it only once. Quotes are DEFINITELY not meant to be accurate, and I'm probably going to get minor details wrong - but unless I ask, don't correct me.

No pretensious song lyrics today because I forgot to charge my iPod and had to do my 20 minute walks LISTENING TO NATURE and the CITY, ugh the horror.



As usual, let me know what you thought in comments. Like me, you must try to focus on the positive, or at least balance out your negativity with positivity, if you can!


hells_half_acre: (Scary!Dean)
2018-04-26 10:05 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x20 Unfinished Business


Alright, same old story that you should know by now - watched episode once while drinking, nothing is meant to be accurate, don't correct me unless it's SO IMPORTANT or I ask.

Now let's get into this sucker...

But not me, baby, I've got you to save me... )

As usual, let me know what you thought in comments, and if you hated all of it, remember that for every negative thing you have to say a positive! OR follow the rule of not saying anything at all. :) 

hells_half_acre: (Worried!Sam)
2018-04-19 09:14 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x19 Funeralia


We're still not in drinking night mode - unless orange juice counts - because although I am no longer sick, my friend is, and since I can't be 100% sure she has the exact same strain of whatever that I had, I am being safe and staying away so as to not get sick again. 

BUT, despite downloading the episode instead, I've still only watched it once. So, everything is still based on my crappy notes.

Also, I REALLY wasn't in the mood to watch SPN tonight, but thankfully, this episode had a few things that I LOVE when SPN has, so it TURNED MY MOOD AROUND. Yay!

So, let's sip some orange juice and talk about this sucker...

This write-up contains a LOT of paraphrasing - so, really, ABSOLUTELY NO QUOTES ARE ACCURATE, in case it's not SUPER OBVIOUS enough )

So, as usual, let me know your thoughts in comments!


hells_half_acre: (Sam strung-out)
2018-04-12 08:35 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x18 Bring 'Em Back Alive


This week there was no drinking, because I am sick... so... it means that you get an earlier than usual Quick Reaction, but you miss out on the tipsy version of the synopsis... instead, you get the mildly delirious(?) version...

Usual rules still apply though: I've only seen the episode once, no quotes - or really anything I say - is meant to be 100% accurate, so don't correct me unless I specifically ask you to do so.

Let's get into it...

Episode! )

As usual, let me know your thoughts in comments.... sorry I may not have been as funny this week? Like I said, I AM sick, and my brain is kind of working at 50% capacity here. I'll be better by next week I'm sure.

hells_half_acre: (Churchyards Yawn)
2018-04-05 10:56 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x17 The Thing


I got a ride home tonight, which was nice, but that means less time to sober up. It also means, no music lyrics to take us through the cut, so instead I will use my tl;dr version of my review:

Well, that was convenient... )

As usual, let me know what your thoughts are in comments!! 
hells_half_acre: (laughing)
2018-03-29 10:02 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x16 ScoobyNatural


We're back! How was your mini-hiatus? I both forgot and then remembered that I'm supposed to be slowly getting the S12 clothes posted, so I've been working on that behind the scenes - nearly there, nearly there.

Same bat rules, same bat circumstances: I've been drinking, no quotes are meant to be accurate, and only correct me if it's vitally important or I ask you to.

Let's GET INTO IT....(with a super inappropriate cut-text song, but it legit was the only thing with intelligible words that came up on my ipod on the way home and them's the rules I set for myself way back in S6 when I started doing this)....

I remember you well at the Chelsea Hotel... )

Anyway, let me know your thoughts in comments! 

hells_half_acre: (Worried!Sam)
2018-03-08 10:25 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x15 The Most Holy Man


Wow, I'm not as think as you drunk I am.


we bluff ourselves )

NEXT TIME IS SCOOBY! But we have to wait for 3 weeks. 

As usual, let me know what you thought in comments - sorry about how hard the wine hit me tonight.

hells_half_acre: (...shit)
2018-03-06 08:04 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x14 Good Intentions

FINALLY! Hahaha, so sorry for the delay, folks!

Because it took me so long to see this one, I was a LITTLE more spoiled than usual - but I'll talk about that after the cut.

In the meantime: Haven't been drinking (boo-urns), BUT have watched the episode only once on an empty stomach, so I'm going a little mad with hunger, since I've decided to write it up before I make dinner - which is probably horribly foolish, but WHATEVER!

Let's get to it...

Jack attack! )

Anyway, I didn't see the next time - so, I'll just be surprised, I guess!

As usual, let me know what you thought in comments!! :)

hells_half_acre: (Shocked!Dean)
2018-02-08 10:34 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x13 Devil's Bargain

And we're back with the midmid-season finale, before we take a short break for winter sports. 

Usual rules apply - I have been drinking (heavily, given the content of this episode) and took poor notes, and I'm going to (probably purposefully) get quotes wrong. Please only correct me if I ask you to (or if you spot like, a date somewhere that could help me timeline this stuff.)

Let's go...

Sail away with me... )

As usual, let me know what you thought in comments - hopefully you liked the episode more than I did, but if you liked it the same, or even less, please keep in mind the rule of balance, and balance out your negatives with positives!

hells_half_acre: (...shit)
2017-12-07 10:06 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x09 The Bad Place


So, this episode is very timely named - because I just finished a binge of season 1 of The Good Place on Netflix! It's a good show, if you want a review - the cast is phenomenal and I'm eagerly awaiting S2.

But let's talk about this actual episode...

(also, I'm returning to lyrics for the cut-text, because for the first time in a couple months I walked home tonight listening to music.)

Only messengers can tell her how I'm missing her tonight )

That's where my notes end. But, in all seriousness, I thought this was a great episode and a fantastic set-up for Wayward Sisters in January... and I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens next!!!

Let me know what you thought in comments!

hells_half_acre: (Scary!Dean)
2017-11-30 10:31 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x08 The Scorpion and the Frog

 Hello! Okay, so having marginally recovered from last week, we're back to business as usual!

Usual rules apply: I've seen the episode once, took crappy notes, and we're keeping things fun and positive (as much as humanly possible!) Also, I've been drinking (mildly).


The Scorpion and the Frog )

As per usual, let me know what you thought in comments, but obey the positive/negative rule. 

hells_half_acre: (Scary!Dean)
2017-11-23 10:10 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x07 War of the Worlds

Listen, I have to be honest here. This episode has broken me. I am just not sure I can be positive at all about it. And I know that's a rule around here, I know that's why a lot of you read my reviews/recaps. But...ugh. This episode single-handedly  destroyed everything I was liking about this season.

So.... I might pull a "Bloodlines" here. Meaning, I'm not going to do a synopsis the way I usually do, or talk about each scene in chronological order. I'm going to talk about the episode over all. 

I am, for the life of me, going to try to match every negative thing I say with something positive, in order to set a good example. 

But, as my friend said as I was leaving - I AM going "to pull a full Unikitty on this one."

Let's see if I can pull that last bit off, shall we? )


As usual, let me know what you thought in comments - if you feel similar to me though, try to follow the negative+positive format, just so that we don't all drown in misery. The world is horrible enough, I say.

hells_half_acre: (Worried!Sam)
2017-11-16 11:01 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x06 Tombstone


I got to watch tonight's episode with the lovely metallidean_grl, because I'm in Portland! Next week I'll be back to Vancouver, but I'm still in vacation mode right now.

It was a lot of fun to watch with another fan - the last.. well, 4 episodes? I've watched alone. 

Anyway, let's actually talk about this thing - because I'm already sleepy.


As usual, let me know what you thought in comments. There's a lot I didn't say, because my brain turned to tired mush part-way through writing this, and now I must sleep/

Seriously, I can't actually see the words on the page right now.

hells_half_acre: (Crying Dean)
2017-11-09 09:05 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x05 Advanced Thanatology

 Hello! I am writing this is sunny southern California! Where I have foolishly gotten a sunburn on my first day in town, because I'm a dumb Canadian! 

It also meant that I watched the episode live, on TV, on it's own network! What the heck?! 

Now let's talk about the episode! Because it was really good (IMO) and I'm quite pleased with Steve Yockey's work here...

Under the cut! )

I gotta say, I know not everyone is digging it, but I'm enjoying the season a lot so far - way more than I thought I would. Though, it all hangs in the balance in terms of where they go from here.

Anyway, let me know your version of "the phone call" in comments!

As usual, if you hated the episode, please remember my rule: If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. If you need to complain, that's okay, but you HAVE to balance it by also talking about things you like... and even though in the past I've allowed "Jared and Jensen are nice to look at." That's not going to fly, it has to be something of equal weight to the thing that you didn't like... and the positives and the negatives HAVE to balance. You can't give me 10 negatives and then say "I liked Sam's hair" as your only positive.

Quick Reactions are for positive thoughts. You have to wait until rewatches next year to be a complete sourpuss.


hells_half_acre: (...shit)
2017-11-02 11:21 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x03 The Big Empty


Sorry this Quick Reaction is so late. My friend had a REALLY bad day (to the point where some transphobic douchebag made them so angry they cried) and so we went out for "the world is garbage" beers, so they could vent about it to me. It's been a big week for friendship around here! 

So, I didn't get to watch the show until 10pm PST... so, as usual - show only watched once, very rushed rough notes so that I can remember scene order, and so all quotes are paraphrased and I might get a few minor details wrong. 

Let's talk about this thing!

I know what you hate, who you love, what you fear... )

So, as per usual, let me know what you thought in comments!! And remember the rule - if you're going to hate on things, you have to say nice things too!

hells_half_acre: (Worried!Sam)
2017-10-26 08:05 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x03 Patience


So, still cat-sitting this week, so no walk home, only one glass of wine (really I should be sticking to one glass of wine on a weeknight anyway), but everything else the same - only watched the episode once, took notes badly, all quotes are paraphrased... blah blah blah...

Let's talk about our first set-up episode to the possible spin-off....

Patience, I said now! )
As usual, let me know your thoughts! 

hells_half_acre: (Darkness Defines)
2017-10-19 09:19 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x02 Rising Son


I've had only one glass of wine, but I'm actually housesitting, so I didn't have to walk home afterward. So, that's nice. Still, only took bad notes and watched once, so same old same old there.

Anyway, let's talk about the episode...

Behind ze cut... )

As usual, let me know what you thought in comments!

hells_half_acre: (Crying Dean)
2017-10-12 09:58 pm

Quick Reaction: 13x01 Lost and Found

 And we're back!

Okay, so... uh, tl;dr: pretty good episode!

Now the reminder about how things work around here: I watch the show once, while drinking (though I only had one glass tonight, because I was driving) and I take really bad notes just to keep track of scene order, and then I recap the episode for you using my memory and making up all the quotes. As such, I'm gonna make minor mistakes and quote things wrong. If you correct me on every minor thing, I get super annoyed. If you correct me when I ASK or on major plot/character points, I'm grateful - so choose wisely!


And nothing else matters... )

As usual, please let me know what you thought in comments!!

REMINDER: Quick Reactions are kept POSITIVE or at least balanced. Ultimately, I like to enjoy things - so if you DO want to complain about something, feel free, but remember than you then have to balance it out by stating something you liked about the show. (Rewatches are for complaining-fests, which we'll totally get to do soon with S12, once I remember to order the DVDs)