What do you make of Sam believing in the Easter bunny until he was 11, considering the reveal of monsters and hunting when he was 8? Continuity error, or do you have some brilliant headcanon to make sense of it? :)
Brilliant headcanon, of course. ;)
I talked a little about it on Tumblr, but no one follows me there (because I am bad at tumblr-ing)... but basically, I don't think this is an error, continuity or characterization, at all.
Think about it? What was Sam's first question when he found out that monsters were real? "Does that mean Santa is real?" Dean told him no, so Sam stopped believing in Santa because he trusts Dean. We also know that Sam believed in angels and God until he was 22... no one makes fun of him for that, because a lot of adults believe in angels and God, even though they have just as much chance of being fictitious as the Easter Bunny. Similarly, Dean thought vampires WEREN'T real until the end of S1 when John told him otherwise and he actually saw some.
Sam would have believed in the Easter Bunny for longer than most kids, because he knew that it was POSSIBLE for the Easter Bunny to exist, because so many other things did.
It's a fundamental different between Sam and Dean that's been there since the beginning. Dean doesn't believe in anything until he sees it (or is told about it by someone he trusts, like John or Bobby). Sam believes in everything until he is given proof otherwise, or is told otherwise by someone he trusts (like Dean.)
I don’t know, that just seemed like something detail-oriented Sam would notice (“oh, this is definitely fennel/jasmine/oleanders, etc.”) that the general populace would never pay attention to, and I liked that.
Agreed completely. It's one of those instances where I don't think Sam realizes that "normal" people don't know that much about flowers.
Also, thank you for catching that line about the yarrow…this is why I love reading your blog. :) They really should pay you to be their continuity consultant.
God, I wish they would. I've been unemployed for nearly 7 months and I'm so broke and getting broker.
I totally agree about Dean's drinking. I'm fine with Dean being a functioning alcoholic. And I really think, if they're going to have a satisfactory story-arc, hat Sam HAS to save Dean. That being said, I am hoping that part of that saving DOES involve getting Dean to have better self-esteem.
As for when Dean started drinking. It might seem weird, but I'm actually skeptical about whether his liver was really "virgin" at 14. I have a friend who grew up in small-town Canada (which I don't think is that different from small-town America) and he STOPPED drinking at 16. (He's since started drinking casually again, but he was sober from 16-22) So... I wouldn't be surprised if Dean started drinking at home around the age of 14, and sneaking into bars at 16. I forget if he gave an age for the CBGB story (I'm behind on my timelining), but I don't picture him being older than 18 for that sort of behaviour.
Dylan Everett really was fantastic. I don't know if Jensen worked with him - but I know from an interview Dylan gave that Jared helped him a lot, because Jared's been acting opposite Jensen for 10 years now.
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What do you make of Sam believing in the Easter bunny until he was 11, considering the reveal of monsters and hunting when he was 8? Continuity error, or do you have some brilliant headcanon to make sense of it? :)
Brilliant headcanon, of course. ;)
I talked a little about it on Tumblr, but no one follows me there (because I am bad at tumblr-ing)... but basically, I don't think this is an error, continuity or characterization, at all.
Think about it? What was Sam's first question when he found out that monsters were real? "Does that mean Santa is real?" Dean told him no, so Sam stopped believing in Santa because he trusts Dean. We also know that Sam believed in angels and God until he was 22... no one makes fun of him for that, because a lot of adults believe in angels and God, even though they have just as much chance of being fictitious as the Easter Bunny. Similarly, Dean thought vampires WEREN'T real until the end of S1 when John told him otherwise and he actually saw some.
Sam would have believed in the Easter Bunny for longer than most kids, because he knew that it was POSSIBLE for the Easter Bunny to exist, because so many other things did.
It's a fundamental different between Sam and Dean that's been there since the beginning. Dean doesn't believe in anything until he sees it (or is told about it by someone he trusts, like John or Bobby). Sam believes in everything until he is given proof otherwise, or is told otherwise by someone he trusts (like Dean.)
I don’t know, that just seemed like something detail-oriented Sam would notice (“oh, this is definitely fennel/jasmine/oleanders, etc.”) that the general populace would never pay attention to, and I liked that.
Agreed completely. It's one of those instances where I don't think Sam realizes that "normal" people don't know that much about flowers.
Also, thank you for catching that line about the yarrow…this is why I love reading your blog. :) They really should pay you to be their continuity consultant.
God, I wish they would. I've been unemployed for nearly 7 months and I'm so broke and getting broker.
I totally agree about Dean's drinking. I'm fine with Dean being a functioning alcoholic. And I really think, if they're going to have a satisfactory story-arc, hat Sam HAS to save Dean. That being said, I am hoping that part of that saving DOES involve getting Dean to have better self-esteem.
As for when Dean started drinking. It might seem weird, but I'm actually skeptical about whether his liver was really "virgin" at 14. I have a friend who grew up in small-town Canada (which I don't think is that different from small-town America) and he STOPPED drinking at 16. (He's since started drinking casually again, but he was sober from 16-22) So... I wouldn't be surprised if Dean started drinking at home around the age of 14, and sneaking into bars at 16. I forget if he gave an age for the CBGB story (I'm behind on my timelining), but I don't picture him being older than 18 for that sort of behaviour.
Dylan Everett really was fantastic. I don't know if Jensen worked with him - but I know from an interview Dylan gave that Jared helped him a lot, because Jared's been acting opposite Jensen for 10 years now.