Couldn't have said it better myself. It saddens me the most that WOMEN are often the ones judging and holding up other women to a specific standard. The worst thing you can do to someone is not allow them to be human - and that includes wanting to turn them into some sort of Ideal. Irene should be allowed to have faults, (just as I have faults and you have faults, and Sherlock has faults,) without being accused of representing her entire gender poorly.
This is true, and I just don’t understand why women keep this behaviour up, and often in discussions it just turns into a screaming match because everyone is blind to even trying to understand the other’s views. The world has moved forward and many things have changed for the better regarding women, but truly being of the female gender doesn’t make all of the people under that banner the same. I just wish it was more room for people to express different roles than what society upholds as the norm without being judged up and down the madonna/whore scale. When there is something one doesn’t understand, the smart thing is to make an effort to learn and understand before going off on a rant.
Very true. I also think the Christmas scene made a point of this. Sherlock chooses his few, and as soon as Molly arrives, we see that she ISN'T one of his chosen few... and I think that's why Sherlock can't see that Molly has chosen HIM. But, that's sort of tangential and beside the point...or maybe it's not? I'm not sure where I was going with this thought.
Yes, the Christmas scene; what a terrific scene and so telling! What you said is very accurate, and in that vein I think it is telling that John’s girlfriend is there, even if Sherlock clearly has no interest in her or even remember her name or face. It says something about his fondness for John. It’s true that Molly has chosen him yes, and I agree that Sherlock doesn’t understand that, or more accurately he isn’t able to perceive it because he doesn’t seem to have any references to anything like it and no interest. And he doesn’t know how to handle it when he does clue in, he tries to, but really he has no references to being nice either, and everyone in the room knows and accepts that. Except Molly.
Regarding Moffatt, which I’ve seen others have mentioned. I wonder if isn’t something of the same as when we remember the times our toast falls and lands with the spread faced to the floor more often than we remember the opposite; like negativity just latches on more easily or something.
I’ve seen a lot of negativity regarding him, him as a person and not based upon any stories or characters he has written. I personally really enjoy his stories from Doctor Who and Sherlock and don’t have complains about how he writes women; but for an outsider looking in it just seems like negativity piled upon negativity without taking the time to check if quotes are accurate or keeping in mind that, as you’ve said one or more mistake doesn’t mean a person is this or that. A person is made up of so much more and yes even brilliant and kind people say the post idiotic and fail-worthy things at times. Also things get misquoted or things sound better before the same thought tumbles out in spoken word a total mess and not resembling what you thought at all. Sorry to go off tangent.
Indeed. I often wonder how society would be different if we never moved north and put on clothes. :P>/i>
An apt question I have no answer to; there’s a great fun Norwegian short story that asks the question, if it was destined that we were to wander, why we didn’t wander south to grow orchards instead of following the ice and reindeer north? One can wonder!
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This is true, and I just don’t understand why women keep this behaviour up, and often in discussions it just turns into a screaming match because everyone is blind to even trying to understand the other’s views. The world has moved forward and many things have changed for the better regarding women, but truly being of the female gender doesn’t make all of the people under that banner the same. I just wish it was more room for people to express different roles than what society upholds as the norm without being judged up and down the madonna/whore scale. When there is something one doesn’t understand, the smart thing is to make an effort to learn and understand before going off on a rant.
Very true. I also think the Christmas scene made a point of this. Sherlock chooses his few, and as soon as Molly arrives, we see that she ISN'T one of his chosen few... and I think that's why Sherlock can't see that Molly has chosen HIM. But, that's sort of tangential and beside the point...or maybe it's not? I'm not sure where I was going with this thought.
Yes, the Christmas scene; what a terrific scene and so telling! What you said is very accurate, and in that vein I think it is telling that John’s girlfriend is there, even if Sherlock clearly has no interest in her or even remember her name or face. It says something about his fondness for John. It’s true that Molly has chosen him yes, and I agree that Sherlock doesn’t understand that, or more accurately he isn’t able to perceive it because he doesn’t seem to have any references to anything like it and no interest. And he doesn’t know how to handle it when he does clue in, he tries to, but really he has no references to being nice either, and everyone in the room knows and accepts that. Except Molly.
Regarding Moffatt, which I’ve seen others have mentioned. I wonder if isn’t something of the same as when we remember the times our toast falls and lands with the spread faced to the floor more often than we remember the opposite; like negativity just latches on more easily or something.
I’ve seen a lot of negativity regarding him, him as a person and not based upon any stories or characters he has written. I personally really enjoy his stories from Doctor Who and Sherlock and don’t have complains about how he writes women; but for an outsider looking in it just seems like negativity piled upon negativity without taking the time to check if quotes are accurate or keeping in mind that, as you’ve said one or more mistake doesn’t mean a person is this or that. A person is made up of so much more and yes even brilliant and kind people say the post idiotic and fail-worthy things at times. Also things get misquoted or things sound better before the same thought tumbles out in spoken word a total mess and not resembling what you thought at all. Sorry to go off tangent.
Indeed. I often wonder how society would be different if we never moved north and put on clothes. :P>/i>
An apt question I have no answer to; there’s a great fun Norwegian short story that asks the question, if it was destined that we were to wander, why we didn’t wander south to grow orchards instead of following the ice and reindeer north? One can wonder!