Very true. Very true. And yes, I personally, kind of like Moffatt "fuck you" attitude when it comes to the fandom. I'm probably in a minority on that, but I like that he stays true to his vision (even if I don't agree with his vision), despite what "the fans" want.
Because I pride myself on my ability to take two steps back from a show and fandom and view the source outside of fandom's lens, I too tend to like Moffat's way of sticking it to fandom. He's got the clout and skill to get away with it and make some truly amazing things(even among the pretty crappy ones).
See, I was a big slasher before I found SPN, and then suddenly I was like "hold the phone, why aren't I enjoying all this sex?" and I had to take a step back and really analyze myself and why slash wasn't sitting right with me anymore. If you're interested, all my fanfic is Gen - and I'm all about the bro-love. ;) Supernatural, redefining your fandom preferences since 2005. ;) It's amazing how it can do that. Yet another reason I love it.
I was also someone who did come to fandom as a young teen, when I was still developing my worldviews and individualism. Thankfully, I'm the self-analytically sort...but I have noticed that I have really odd ingrained reflexes, like my tendency to distrust people's affections unless they are gay. That's funny, because I'm the same way; I got into fandom, actually, when I was, like 11 years old, long before the "proper" time for teenage redefinition, but I was always an advanced kid. I didn't get what it all was or what it meant, but I loved forums and (when I found it) ff.net. Admittedly, fandom has shaped my life and views in many, many aspects, but I tend to be self-analytical too, to the extreme sometimes, so I can(and often do) take a moment to step outside myself and look at how circumstances and events legitimately are effecting me. So I can safely say fandom and the experiences therein have changed me - for the better. But that's highly tangential.
Seriously, I'll see a heterosexual couple and I'll think "I wonder if they really love each other, or if they are just faking..." and then I'll see a gay couple (male only) and think "awww, true love." It's frickin' weird. I can't help but wonder if that comes from the stigma and hate attached to being gay; for a heterosexual couple to behave heterosexually in public, that's "normal", nothing new. But for two gay men to "put their masculinity on the line", for lack of a better way to put it, and actively behave romantically towards each other in public, that takes a level of bravery that is generally associated with stronger affection(society's correlation between your love for someone/something and how far you're willing to go or how much you're willing to do). So the connection between being gay and true love. I admit, I tend to see it myself. And the reason it doesn't show up in F/F relationships is because for women, there's a lot less stigma attached to it than with men; for women society has informed us that it's practically trendy. I'm sorry, I'll stop analyzing shit now. You got me started and I've just snowballed into the biggest snowball yet.
Those posts were absolutely fantastic! I'm totally reccing them to my flist. ♥
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Because I pride myself on my ability to take two steps back from a show and fandom and view the source outside of fandom's lens, I too tend to like Moffat's way of sticking it to fandom. He's got the clout and skill to get away with it and make some truly amazing things(even among the pretty crappy ones).
See, I was a big slasher before I found SPN, and then suddenly I was like "hold the phone, why aren't I enjoying all this sex?" and I had to take a step back and really analyze myself and why slash wasn't sitting right with me anymore. If you're interested, all my fanfic is Gen - and I'm all about the bro-love. ;)
Supernatural, redefining your fandom preferences since 2005. ;) It's amazing how it can do that. Yet another reason I love it.
I was also someone who did come to fandom as a young teen, when I was still developing my worldviews and individualism. Thankfully, I'm the self-analytically sort...but I have noticed that I have really odd ingrained reflexes, like my tendency to distrust people's affections unless they are gay.
That's funny, because I'm the same way; I got into fandom, actually, when I was, like 11 years old, long before the "proper" time for teenage redefinition, but I was always an advanced kid. I didn't get what it all was or what it meant, but I loved forums and (when I found it) ff.net. Admittedly, fandom has shaped my life and views in many, many aspects, but I tend to be self-analytical too, to the extreme sometimes, so I can(and often do) take a moment to step outside myself and look at how circumstances and events legitimately are effecting me. So I can safely say fandom and the experiences therein have changed me - for the better. But that's highly tangential.
Seriously, I'll see a heterosexual couple and I'll think "I wonder if they really love each other, or if they are just faking..." and then I'll see a gay couple (male only) and think "awww, true love." It's frickin' weird.
I can't help but wonder if that comes from the stigma and hate attached to being gay; for a heterosexual couple to behave heterosexually in public, that's "normal", nothing new. But for two gay men to "put their masculinity on the line", for lack of a better way to put it, and actively behave romantically towards each other in public, that takes a level of bravery that is generally associated with stronger affection(society's correlation between your love for someone/something and how far you're willing to go or how much you're willing to do). So the connection between being gay and true love. I admit, I tend to see it myself. And the reason it doesn't show up in F/F relationships is because for women, there's a lot less stigma attached to it than with men; for women society has informed us that it's practically trendy.
I'm sorry, I'll stop analyzing shit now. You got me started and I've just snowballed into the biggest snowball yet.
Those posts were absolutely fantastic! I'm totally reccing them to my flist. ♥